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>The solution to pollution is dilution. it has been proven times and times again that such a "solution" doesn't work. Just an example https://en.wikipedia.org

by trhway 6y ago

>The solution to pollution is dilution. it has been proven times and times again that such a "solution" doesn't work. Just an example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_dioxide_in_Earth%27s_atmosphere#/media/File:Mauna_Loa_CO2_monthly_mean_concentration.svg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_dioxide_in_Earth%27s_at... Similar to the CO2 where the issue isn't any one particular car or plane, the issue in this case isn't the polluted water from one plant. The issue is the practice of dumping of stuff into the oceans. Allowing such practice to go forward will quickly lead to the ocean not able to "dilute" anymore to safe concentration the stuff we'd be dumping into it. And on pure economics grounds - businesses and even regular people are getting fined even for accidental releases into water and air, and why should a nuclear plant be allowed to externalize its costs (which the dumping is) instead of bearing it? The do have an insurance after all.

ddingus 6y ago
You mean doesn't always work, right? Containment is another option we sometimes have available to us, when we cannot transform the waste otherwise. In general though, dilution is the go to. In this scenario, we will end up forced to live with dilution. Containment is crazy, and the core itself is likely to end up in the water cycle. Breakdown takes a looooong time.
wffurr 6y ago
Obviously the answer is to make more atmosphere and/or ocean!
- trhway 6y ago
  we have the whole Solar system waiting for our stuff to be dumped there.
  - ddingus 6y ago
    Getting it out is ultra high risk.
Guvante 6y ago
Does this have anything to do with radioactive water? They aren't dumping radioactive waste, just water that has become radioactive from being near radioactive waste.
- trhway 6y ago
  >They aren't dumping radioactive waste, just water that has become radioactive from being near radioactive waste. radioactive waste water is radioactive waste.
  - Guvante 6y ago
    So you are just using the "technically correct" phrase designed to make it sound dangerous? Dilution amount totally matters in this context. For instance the EPA limit means if all of your drinking water was at that limit you would increase the amount of radiation exposure by 1.3% per year. Would that be "radioactive waste"?
    - trhway 6y ago
      >So you are just using the "technically correct" phrase designed to make it sound dangerous? do you propose to use less technically correct phrase to make it sound less dangerous? >Would that be "radioactive waste"? may as well be. The biological impact of getting radiation sources into your body vs. being just exposed to it externally is very different (specifically significantly more severe) in case of alpha and beta sources.
      - TheSpiceIsLife 6y ago
        The term radioactive is, how shall I put it? Broad. How radioactive? What type of radiation? Is the source also a chemical contaminant? Tritium isn't chemically dangerous and also not very radioactive, emitting only beta radiation. Diluted sufficiently probably fine to put in the ocean.

by trhway 6y ago

ddingus 6y ago

You mean doesn't always work, right? Containment is another option we sometimes have available to us, when we cannot transform the waste otherwise. In general though, dilution is the go to. In this scenario, we will end up forced to live with dilution. Containment is crazy, and the core itself is likely to end up in the water cycle. Breakdown takes a looooong time.

wffurr 6y ago

Obviously the answer is to make more atmosphere and/or ocean!

trhway 6y ago
we have the whole Solar system waiting for our stuff to be dumped there.
- ddingus 6y ago
  Getting it out is ultra high risk.

Guvante 6y ago

Does this have anything to do with radioactive water? They aren't dumping radioactive waste, just water that has become radioactive from being near radioactive waste.

trhway 6y ago
>They aren't dumping radioactive waste, just water that has become radioactive from being near radioactive waste. radioactive waste water is radioactive waste.
- Guvante 6y ago
  So you are just using the "technically correct" phrase designed to make it sound dangerous? Dilution amount totally matters in this context. For instance the EPA limit means if all of your drinking water was at that limit you would increase the amount of radiation exposure by 1.3% per year. Would that be "radioactive waste"?
  - trhway 6y ago
    >So you are just using the "technically correct" phrase designed to make it sound dangerous? do you propose to use less technically correct phrase to make it sound less dangerous? >Would that be "radioactive waste"? may as well be. The biological impact of getting radiation sources into your body vs. being just exposed to it externally is very different (specifically significantly more severe) in case of alpha and beta sources.
    - TheSpiceIsLife 6y ago
      The term radioactive is, how shall I put it? Broad. How radioactive? What type of radiation? Is the source also a chemical contaminant? Tritium isn't chemically dangerous and also not very radioactive, emitting only beta radiation. Diluted sufficiently probably fine to put in the ocean.