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>I'm not wearing VR to your virtual meeting. Can we be so certain of this, especially given the events of the last year? If VR technology had been perfected a

>I'm not wearing VR to your virtual meeting. Can we be so certain of this, especially given the events of the last year? If VR technology had been perfected at the time, it seems very likely to me that instead of a shift to Zoom at the outbreak of the pandemic, many companies, government agencies and (especially) schools would have made the move to VR. It will be interesting to see how VR is integrated into our every day lives (both voluntarily and otherwise) as it is perfected.

ghaff 6y ago
Because that's not how people attend meetings. Meetings are mostly not-full focus events. That's not to say that VR couldn't have a role in, say, an in-depth review of a hardware design. But, the typical meeting? People are turning their cameras on and off and are probably spending about 50% attention depending upon how relevant the current topic is to them. This of course happens in the physical world as well.
- majewsky 6y ago
  After having spent one year in home office, there is literally no household chore that I have not done during a meeting yet. Easy tier: folding laundry, cooking, most other things Medium tier: doing the dishes, cleaning the bathroom (need to have a towel at the ready if I need to unmute) Hard tier: vacuuming (makes it hard to listen to what's being said, so I've only done it once very briefly until now)
  - _carbyau_ 6y ago
    Vacuum robot FTW! Can set it going from the web interface, direct drive it or detail zones.
    - majewsky 6y ago
      Everyone keeps recommending vacuum robots to me, but they don't solve the hard parts of vacuuming. A vacuum robot will not move furniture around to get the dust in the corners. A vacuum robot will not clean the dust on my desk, or in my keyboard.
      - _carbyau_ 6y ago
        It is very true that a robot vacuum will not solve ALL your vacuuming problems. It really only solves maintenance cleaning IE doing the main bits that get dirty most often like common walkways, near the front door etc. For me, that is 90% of the work. I only live in a small place and wife and I appreciate it. In a large house, with 3 or more kids? I'd buy one for every floor if I had to. For the other 10%, I have a dyson battery powered stick thing. Gets into the nooks, does the keyboard and the car too. And there is something nice about being able to do the dishes, wash and dry clothes, vacuum the floor; all while playing games.
- StanislavPetrov 6y ago
  >Meetings are mostly not-full focus events. That's not to say that VR couldn't have a role in, say, an in-depth review of a hardware design. But, the typical meeting? People are turning their cameras on and off and are probably spending about 50% attention depending upon how relevant the current topic is to them. This is true, at least in part, because Zoom meetings allow this, not necessarily because this is the behavior that an employer views as ideal. If VR technology was well-developed, I think its likely that many employers would hold VR meetings for the very reason that employees would be forced to give 100% of their attention. Certainly this is true when it comes to schools, which have done everything possible to ensure that students are paying 100% attention all the time, aren't using supplemental materials during tests (cheating), ect. >When North Carolina A&T State University junior Arielle G. Brown took her International Marketing exam in September, a cheating-detection program analyzed her behavior through a computer webcam the entire time. After the test, her associate professor fired off a furious email ripping into her class for some “negative behavior” the software had flagged. >“A STUDENT IN 6 MINUTES HAD 776 HEAD AND EYE MOVEMENTS,” she wrote, adding later, “I would hate to have to write you up.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/11/12/test-monitoring-student-revolt https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/11/12/test-mo... We may not all end up choosing (or be forced) to hold VR meetings in cyberspace, but to seems virtually (pun intended) certain to me that many will.

ghaff 6y ago

Because that's not how people attend meetings. Meetings are mostly not-full focus events. That's not to say that VR couldn't have a role in, say, an in-depth review of a hardware design. But, the typical meeting? People are turning their cameras on and off and are probably spending about 50% attention depending upon how relevant the current topic is to them. This of course happens in the physical world as well.

majewsky 6y ago
After having spent one year in home office, there is literally no household chore that I have not done during a meeting yet. Easy tier: folding laundry, cooking, most other things Medium tier: doing the dishes, cleaning the bathroom (need to have a towel at the ready if I need to unmute) Hard tier: vacuuming (makes it hard to listen to what's being said, so I've only done it once very briefly until now)
- _carbyau_ 6y ago
  Vacuum robot FTW! Can set it going from the web interface, direct drive it or detail zones.
  - majewsky 6y ago
    Everyone keeps recommending vacuum robots to me, but they don't solve the hard parts of vacuuming. A vacuum robot will not move furniture around to get the dust in the corners. A vacuum robot will not clean the dust on my desk, or in my keyboard.
    - _carbyau_ 6y ago
      It is very true that a robot vacuum will not solve ALL your vacuuming problems. It really only solves maintenance cleaning IE doing the main bits that get dirty most often like common walkways, near the front door etc. For me, that is 90% of the work. I only live in a small place and wife and I appreciate it. In a large house, with 3 or more kids? I'd buy one for every floor if I had to. For the other 10%, I have a dyson battery powered stick thing. Gets into the nooks, does the keyboard and the car too. And there is something nice about being able to do the dishes, wash and dry clothes, vacuum the floor; all while playing games.
StanislavPetrov 6y ago
>Meetings are mostly not-full focus events. That's not to say that VR couldn't have a role in, say, an in-depth review of a hardware design. But, the typical meeting? People are turning their cameras on and off and are probably spending about 50% attention depending upon how relevant the current topic is to them. This is true, at least in part, because Zoom meetings allow this, not necessarily because this is the behavior that an employer views as ideal. If VR technology was well-developed, I think its likely that many employers would hold VR meetings for the very reason that employees would be forced to give 100% of their attention. Certainly this is true when it comes to schools, which have done everything possible to ensure that students are paying 100% attention all the time, aren't using supplemental materials during tests (cheating), ect. >When North Carolina A&T State University junior Arielle G. Brown took her International Marketing exam in September, a cheating-detection program analyzed her behavior through a computer webcam the entire time. After the test, her associate professor fired off a furious email ripping into her class for some “negative behavior” the software had flagged. >“A STUDENT IN 6 MINUTES HAD 776 HEAD AND EYE MOVEMENTS,” she wrote, adding later, “I would hate to have to write you up.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/11/12/test-monitoring-student-revolt https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/11/12/test-mo... We may not all end up choosing (or be forced) to hold VR meetings in cyberspace, but to seems virtually (pun intended) certain to me that many will.