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That's a little one sided don't you think? Iran's despotic leader has publicly stated that they would love to wipe Israel off the map. They're a much larger an
by eloff 6y ago
That's a little one sided don't you think?
Iran's despotic leader has publicly stated that they would love to wipe Israel off the map. They're a much larger and more populous nation with massive petroleum reserves and one of the top ten largest militaries in the world by enlisted count. Israel is completely justified in seeing Iran as an existential threat.
- bjourne 6y agoWho wouldn't love to wipe Israel off the map? Israel was created by wiping Palestine off the map so wiping Israel off of it seems more than fair. :) Hopefully, Palestinians and Israelis can learn to live in peace and as equals some day. The wipe Israel off the map quote comes from a speech held by Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in 2005. The quote is a mistranslated Arabic figure of speech taken out of context and has been regurgitated by Zionist lobbies for over 15 years now. There is no inherent basis for a conflict between Israel and Iran. Iran isn't an Arab country, doesn't have any territorial claims in the Levant, and the Palestinians' version of Islam isn't even compatible with Iran's. Who benefits from keeping the conflict going? The Israeli arms industry. You can ask the same thing about US trade tariffs on China. Who benefits?
- AzzieElbab 6y ago“ Who wouldn't love to wipe Israel off the map?” - if you ever want an example of self hypnosis, go no further
- SuoDuanDao 6y agoI've heard that Saudi maps literally just show ocean where Israel is. But because Israel and SA are both friends of the Americans, that amount of literal demapping is tolerated. I wonder, given the greater cultural similarities and Iran's success in the Yemeni civil war, whether Israel will throw in with Iran against the Saudis once the US presence in the region becomes irrelevant.
- jeromegv 6y ago“I’ve heard”. It seems to me that in such a politicized topic, you’d want to google it before you spread this kind of information. I’ve heard you make a lot of things up. That doesn’t mean it’s true (or false). Let’s bring up some real information, not rumours.
- SuoDuanDao 6y agoI suppose that's a fair criticism, but it seems tangential to the central point that Israel and Saudi Arabia play up their animosity for the public.
- splintercell 6y agoYour comment is a great metaphor of the precise thing you are arguing against. "Who wouldn't love to wipe Israel off the map?" then a few paragraphs about Ahmednijad never said that, this is a miscommunication, there's no animosity between Israel and Iran (Iranian propaganda repeatedly talks about wiping Israel off the map, just check up Wikipedia on Ahmednijad).
- selimthegrim 6y agoHow did “remove occupation regime from the pages of time” turn into “wipe off the map”?
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- selimthegrim 6y agoWell yes, I can read that, but as I recall the controversial quote all those years ago was a bit more subtle
- eloff 6y ago> There is no inherent basis for a conflict between Israel and Iran. One word. Hezbollah. I need say no more to refute that. Edit, evidently I have to explain that Iran funds and arms Hezbollah, among other terrorist groups.
- Gibbon1 6y ago> Hezbollah Hezbollah is the Israeli's fault. That's what they got for trying to annex southern Lebanon. I have no sympathy.
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- eloff 6y agoThey annexed southern Lebanon during a civil war to create a buffer zone against terrorist groups staging attacks against Israel from Lebanon. It's tough for me to cast them as the bad guys in that situation. That was a reasonable strategy given the circumstances.
- Gibbon1 6y agoIsrael invaded and tried annex southern Lebanon during the Lebanese civil war. Before Hezbollah existed. Hezbollah whole purpose was to kick the Israeli's out. Which they did. They are the reason Israel wasn't able to do to Southern Lebanon what they did in the west bank. The complaint seems to be that Hezbollah shots rockets into Northern Israel occasionally in response to Israeli attacks on Hezbollah. Solution is for Israel to keep their fighters inside their own airspace.
- nerdponx 6y agoDo sanctions even do anything if the leader is indeed despotic? It's not like typical Iranians can go out and protest.
- koheripbal 6y agoSanctions and trade deals are not all-or-nothing mechanisms. They can be increased/decreased to incentivize nations to alter behavior. They are especially effective when you can selectively punish industries within a nation that support the leader, to help provide more economic resources to opposition leaders.