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To be noted : we have a extensive fast train system. As a user, I prefer to take the train. It’s faster, more confortable and overall less hassle. ( you get fro
by dopidopHN 6y ago
To be noted : we have a extensive fast train system.
As a user, I prefer to take the train. It’s faster, more confortable and overall less hassle.
( you get from city center to city center, no security check; you can move around, use your mobile hotspot or the train wifi )
The one use case is going from Paris to Toulouse for instance. It’s take a day of train. But even Paris-Marseille is less than 3h at this point.
Paris, Lyon, Lille; Marseille, Nantes, Strasbourg; Those are our « top » cities and they are all connected with fast trains.
- thiht 6y agoRennes-Toulouse is 10 hours by train, because it transits through Paris. It's 2 hours by plane. If you're in Paris, you can go anywhere easily. If you're not in Paris, some cities are hard to reach by train.
- jcranmer 6y agoLooking at timetables, it's actually 7h30 or 6h30 by train (I'm seeing two different itineraries, and I'm not sure where the hour difference comes from). Even then, the Bordeaux-Toulouse link is not full HSR speed, and adds an extra ~2h of travel time because of it. When LGV Bordeaux-Toulouse is built, that should cut off another 2h to a 4h30 trip. You might theoretically cut off another 1h if there were a more direct Rennes-Bordeaux line, but most of the delay over the plane isn't caused by the detour to Paris but by the quality of the current rail line to Toulouse.
- thiht 6y agoMaybe it improved since the time I had to do Rennes-Toulouse, which is good (although it should be better). FWIW the SNCF website still says that the average is 10h30, 6h30 being the best.
- Befterriager 6y ago> When LGV Bordeaux-Toulouse is built For context for US readers, the California High-Speed Rail will probably be completed before the end of the debate on the construction of the LGV Bordeaux-Toulouse.
- raverbashing 6y agoAs per TFA (which apparently nobody read) > to abolish domestic flights on routes than can be covered by train in under two-and-a-half hours
- dopidopHN 6y agoThank you. I’ve been commenting a few time that yes. All train go thought Paris first and it’s fucked up. But also it’s not relevant to this particular conversation
- baby 6y agoAdd the time it takes to go to the airport, and go through security gates, and all of that and you get more like a 5-6h flight. Also Rennes toulouse 10h by train? I have a hard time believing this.
- _Microft 6y agoThe SNCF metric has got their name for a reason... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metric_space#SNCF https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metric_space#SNCF
- dopidopHN 6y agoI’m acutely aware of that , having grow up in economically devastated country-side where you have to drive 2h to reach the first of those fast train. It’s infuriating. But oh well, that how the country has been design.