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They're already working with one political candidate: https://pdap.atlassian.net/browse/PDAP-149 https://pdap.atlassian.net/browse/PDAP-149

• zepto 6y ago
  You have linked to a message saying: “Any chance you guys have data on NJ? I'm running for office there and was looking to get some police misconduct data to double check a couple things” It is not clear how this means that they are working with a political candidate, or what that means to you. Can you explain what conclusions you are drawing from this message?
  • chaps 6y ago
    From their slack, a political candidate posted that they were interested One of two of their volunteer scrapers said that he would drop his work in California to work on New Jersey instead. I guess "working with" is bad language, though "interested in dropping other work in favor of requests by political candidates" is more accurate.
    • zepto 6y ago
      Providing data to people who want it seems like the reason the project exists, so it seems natural for them to respond to users asking for data. It’s not clear to me how you think this relates to their claim: “Are you affiliated with a political party or have a political agenda?“
      • chaps 6y ago
        I can see why others would disagree with me here, but I personally see no difference between having party affiliation and having 50% of your relevant volunteers doing work that helps a politician achieve their goals.
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        • zepto 6y ago
          It seems reasonable to assume that 100% of their work will help politicians achieve their goals. Data on NJ was clearly already part of their plan. I don’t see how this has anything to do with party affiliation. Can you explain how it does?
          • luxuryballs 6y ago
            I can take a stab at it, there are potentially political motives to why a politician might want data that would bolster the perception of police misconduct.
            • zepto 6y ago
              Of course, but that’s an inevitable use of this data, and is about the politician not the project.
          • chaps 6y ago
            As far as I can tell, you're being intentionally uncharitable. There's a difference between doing work in isolation that a politician uses for their own political goals and doing work that specifically and intentionally helps a politician on their request. If you were to drop all of your ongoing side projects to work with a political candidate that asked for your help, would you really try to argue that you're not at least somewhat tied to that candidate?
            • unishark 6y ago
              > If you were to drop all of your ongoing side projects to work with a political candidate that asked for your help, would you really try to argue that you're not at least somewhat tied to that candidate? Not if they were willing to do so regardless of the candidate's party or political agenda.
            • 6y ago
• jjulius 6y ago
  "Working with" feels like a loaded phrase. Someone created that ticket requesting that data 14 minutes ago, and the ticket has yet to even be assigned to anyone (at the time of my post). I'm not sure how you can conflate this project's lack of a response to a request as "already working with".
• Hasnep 6y ago
  A political candidate asked for help accessing some data, not the same thing as affiliating with a political party.