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remember that now you're supposed to be in the train 20min in advance, and connecting across stations in Paris with heavy luggage and kids is a shit show (and a

remember that now you're supposed to be in the train 20min in advance, and connecting across stations in Paris with heavy luggage and kids is a shit show (and a non-starter for foreigners, they just call a taxi, and as the most visited country in the world, this detail should matter) But I hope it increases the frequency of bullet trains to and from CDG TGV, this train station never had a useful train time for my airplane. Lyon Airport is very easy to reach by train, too bad it has almost no airplane.

ahartmetz 6y ago
> now you're supposed to be in the train 20min in advance Oh, why is that? Never heard of it or had to do it anywhere. My last train trip starting from France was about 15 years ago, though. And most trains have several stops so you couldn't possibly be so early except at the initial departure, not without slowing down the whole trip unacceptably.
- nraynaud 6y ago
  So a train driver closed the doors 2 minutes early once, letting a lawyer who could prove he was on time stranded in the train station instead of appearing in court, and now our world has changed. This is a true story, and this is really the beginning of the change. They also hired people from the airplane industrie, so they now control some stuff in the station instead of during the travel, robbing everybody of more time. It just baffles me that I can't rush to the train and buy my ticket inside, where I have nothing better to do anyways.
kergonath 6y ago
> remember that now you're supposed to be in the train 20min in advance That is not true. They show the platform on the screens at the station 20 minutes in advance. I think they recommend being 5 minutes in advance, but they let anyone board as long as the doors are open.
- nraynaud 6y ago
  you are right, they just "advise" you to be there 20 to 30 minutes early. https://www.oui.sncf/aide/presentation-a-l-embarquement https://www.oui.sncf/aide/presentation-a-l-embarquement And they outright write that some people will get an airplane experience, and not in a free drink way.
  - kergonath 6y ago
    $former_job used to pay “pro 1ère” TGV tickets. Those came with free drinks and nibbles, I quite enjoyed it. It was much better than a plane in terms of noise, stability, and legroom. No idea how much they cost though.

ahartmetz 6y ago

> now you're supposed to be in the train 20min in advance Oh, why is that? Never heard of it or had to do it anywhere. My last train trip starting from France was about 15 years ago, though. And most trains have several stops so you couldn't possibly be so early except at the initial departure, not without slowing down the whole trip unacceptably.

nraynaud 6y ago
So a train driver closed the doors 2 minutes early once, letting a lawyer who could prove he was on time stranded in the train station instead of appearing in court, and now our world has changed. This is a true story, and this is really the beginning of the change. They also hired people from the airplane industrie, so they now control some stuff in the station instead of during the travel, robbing everybody of more time. It just baffles me that I can't rush to the train and buy my ticket inside, where I have nothing better to do anyways.

kergonath 6y ago

> remember that now you're supposed to be in the train 20min in advance That is not true. They show the platform on the screens at the station 20 minutes in advance. I think they recommend being 5 minutes in advance, but they let anyone board as long as the doors are open.

nraynaud 6y ago
you are right, they just "advise" you to be there 20 to 30 minutes early. https://www.oui.sncf/aide/presentation-a-l-embarquement https://www.oui.sncf/aide/presentation-a-l-embarquement And they outright write that some people will get an airplane experience, and not in a free drink way.
- kergonath 6y ago
  $former_job used to pay “pro 1ère” TGV tickets. Those came with free drinks and nibbles, I quite enjoyed it. It was much better than a plane in terms of noise, stability, and legroom. No idea how much they cost though.