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Nope, you people are living in a fairy tale. I’d love to have a decent linux desktop installation. I spent hours yesterday and gave up. I have a laptop running
by eknkc 6y ago
Nope, you people are living in a fairy tale. I’d love to have a decent linux desktop installation. I spent hours yesterday and gave up.
I have a laptop running Ubuntu and connected to my 4k monitor in front of me. Has an Intel gpu. I do not even want to use multiple displays, I’m gonna go with the external only.
Wayland can do fractional scaling but then VsCode, Firefox, Discord and whatever apps I tried became blurry shit. Firefox has an environment variable to fix it. VsCode has an experimental build and command line flags. I have no idea about Discord. I don’t care if its the app developers fault. It is just plain bad.
X11 can do fractional scaling but fonts are a little blurry for some reason and I have the worst screen tearing I’ve ever seen in my life. It is unusable.
macOS and Windows do this perfectly. It is not something you think about. Windows has some weird looking apps here and there but the shittyneas is not even close.
- dijit 6y agoI don't know what to tell you, maybe I won the lottery on hardware. (though, admittedly I buy computers with linux support in mind). Everything works completely flawlessly for me (even nice font rendering, though idk if I did something manual for that). For context, I have (currently) a precision 5520 laptop; I run arch with sway, I have a big USB-C 4k at work and 2*16:10 FHD Dell USB-C monitors at home. The only issues I have with linux is that I don't have Microsoft Office, and Zoom+Wayland is buggy as hell.
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- devit 6y agoDon't use fractional scaling. Use the closest integer scaling and adjust default font sizes (and if needed other sizes like window title height or panel height). It's also best if you just don't buy monitors that have dpis that are not close to integer multiples of 96.
- eknkc 6y agoYeah I tried this but I used 1x ui scaling + 1.5x font scaling. It works but then all the buttons and stuff are tiny. Maybe I should try 2x gui scaling and 0.75 font size? Never occured to me that I could go below 1 on the scales, it might work. edit: 2x on wayland is still blurry. 1x + 2x font works but as I said, tiny buttons and stuff. Still, my point is; why the fuck am I dealing with this?
- whatever1 6y agoBecause it’s free and nobody is willing to put the effort (and pay the cost) to make a pleasing UX for desktop users. In mobile where there is market, Google did it. I stopped trying a couple of years ago (after I got a 4K monitor) to convince myself that desktop Linux is workable. Linux for desktop = console
- vetinari 6y ago> Wayland can do fractional scaling but then VsCode, Firefox, Discord and whatever apps I tried became blurry shit. X11 apps do that. Firefox can run in Wayland mode, so run it in Wayland mode. vscode and other electron apps do not support wayland yet, so until they do (yes, they are taking their sweet time), you either need to run with integer scaling, or tolerate them being blurry. In Windows, the shittyness is much worse. Basically any Qt app is unusable with hidpi in Windows.
- Kwpolska 6y ago> In Windows, the shittyness is much worse. Basically any Qt app is unusable with hidpi in Windows. In my experience, it isn’t. On my setup (200% + 100% screens, Retina MacBook Pro in Boot Camp) KeePassXC, qBitTorrent, Qt Designer all look great on both screens; VLC has slightly weird fonts on the HiDPI screen but still works fine.
- vetinari 6y agoNative Windows 10 on a threadripper machine; display at 175%. QGIS, FME completely unusable.
- mixmastamyk 6y agoUbuntu Mate just works, been using with two 4k monitors for over five years.