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In countries like Denmark or Norway things like Universal health care are not free, they are paid by high taxes and gas/oil from Greenland/North sea that most c

In countries like Denmark or Norway things like Universal health care are not free, they are paid by high taxes and gas/oil from Greenland/North sea that most countries do not have, and lots of things in Hospitals need a family member to help for caring ill people(and you pay for some services if you can). I went to "free" public University to study engineering that was not free at all. You needed high grades to enter and to remain there. Every year half the people was ousted. The grading system had little resemblance with engineering in the real work. No system is perfect, but socialism is one of the worst system the world ever had. In the US young people and almost all teachers are socialists, because they have no idea what socialism really is and care about what the world should be in theory instead of what it is. I talk about socialism because Capitalism as concept was an invention of Marx to define everything that was not communism. The early phoneticians or Greeks were Capitalist as they were free to make deals and they accumulated capital too. Go to Poland, go to Hungary, go to Czechia or Slovakia, ask the people what socialism is, look at the buildings before and after socialism. Compare with neighbors that did not experience socialism. If there is something to fear is authoritarians, could be Hitler, could be Lenin, or could be corporativism, companies that become monopolies or oligopolies or the military complexes. Always remember Lenin or Mao, each one killed tens of millions of people out of pure incompetency, but nobody could expel them, let alone Pol Pot or Stalin that were the seed of Satan. If there is something to fear is that people in power are not controlled. The military for example should always be controlled, but with AI that lets them not send their children to war and could people like a videogame they are even more dangerous than they were.

kaba0 6y ago
> In countries like Denmark or Norway things like Universal health care are not free, they are paid by high taxes It’s the perfect reason to have “high” taxes. > and lots of things in Hospitals need a family member to help for caring ill people(and you pay for some services if you can) I have no idea what you mean by this. It is a hospital, where in exchange for your taxes you get a given service (in many European countries quite high level one, and you don’t have to argue about whether a bear attack was a preexisting condition). > I went to "free" public University to study engineering that was not free at all. You needed high grades to enter and to remain there. I don’t know which country you are talking about but engineering is usually hard. It would be laughable if just because you pay for it, you get a diploma. But also, in most European countries you do have an option to pay for your studies as well, in which case you can go on as long as you have money left. I don’t see why allowing poor but talented students to study onward would be bad. And I really don’t get your point on the grading system. As far as I know there is little difference between “paid” and “free” universities. > Go to Poland, go to Hungary, go to Czechia or Slovakia, ask the people what socialism is, look at the buildings before and after socialism What’s up with buildings? Yeah Soviet brutalism (as an architectural design) is not the most beautiful (though if we are not talking about the block houses, there are some really interesting ones like museums), but people had a home, there weren’t really homeless people. I think it was a much better system than the current insanely priced housing market, where most people instead of paying for their home, instead use one as a service, disallowing many from ever buying a home. Also, the problem with Hungary at least (not sure about the other countries) was the change from socialism to capitalism, where expensive industries /factories were sold for pennies and went to foreign hands. So what we mean by socialism is quite variable, but socialism policies (health care, free university) are a definitive win for society, and not having them is barbaric. As for your last-1 paragraph, I do agree, uncontrolled power is the problem.

kaba0 6y ago

> In countries like Denmark or Norway things like Universal health care are not free, they are paid by high taxes It’s the perfect reason to have “high” taxes. > and lots of things in Hospitals need a family member to help for caring ill people(and you pay for some services if you can) I have no idea what you mean by this. It is a hospital, where in exchange for your taxes you get a given service (in many European countries quite high level one, and you don’t have to argue about whether a bear attack was a preexisting condition). > I went to "free" public University to study engineering that was not free at all. You needed high grades to enter and to remain there. I don’t know which country you are talking about but engineering is usually hard. It would be laughable if just because you pay for it, you get a diploma. But also, in most European countries you do have an option to pay for your studies as well, in which case you can go on as long as you have money left. I don’t see why allowing poor but talented students to study onward would be bad. And I really don’t get your point on the grading system. As far as I know there is little difference between “paid” and “free” universities. > Go to Poland, go to Hungary, go to Czechia or Slovakia, ask the people what socialism is, look at the buildings before and after socialism What’s up with buildings? Yeah Soviet brutalism (as an architectural design) is not the most beautiful (though if we are not talking about the block houses, there are some really interesting ones like museums), but people had a home, there weren’t really homeless people. I think it was a much better system than the current insanely priced housing market, where most people instead of paying for their home, instead use one as a service, disallowing many from ever buying a home. Also, the problem with Hungary at least (not sure about the other countries) was the change from socialism to capitalism, where expensive industries /factories were sold for pennies and went to foreign hands. So what we mean by socialism is quite variable, but socialism policies (health care, free university) are a definitive win for society, and not having them is barbaric. As for your last-1 paragraph, I do agree, uncontrolled power is the problem.