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It obviously does. In countries like America you have to target and pander to multiple communities with different priorities at the same time to get their vote.

by ttt0 6y ago

It obviously does. In countries like America you have to target and pander to multiple communities with different priorities at the same time to get their vote. A homogeneous society makes everything much easier. I live in one and people are complaining about elderly being a voting block anyways. Multiracial society would divide it even further.

gjulianm 6y ago
> In countries like America you have to target and pander to multiple communities with different priorities at the same time to get their vote. Exactly the same as in any other country. Implying that a community is homogeneous just because they have the same skin color is pretty racist.
- ttt0 6y ago
  > Exactly the same as in any other country. Sure, so let me repeat: > I live in one and people are complaining about elderly being a voting block anyways. Multiracial society would divide it even further. No group is truly homogeneous. We're talking about racial homogeneity. If you don't like that some racial groups are acting as voting blocks then go complain to politicians or those groups, not me.
  - gjulianm 6y ago
    > No group is truly homogeneous. We're talking about racial homogeneity. So you do agree that saying that a country is "homogeneous" just because it is racially homogeneous does not make sense?
    - ttt0 6y ago
      No, I don't. Since we can't take it literally, it's an acceptable abbreviation to "racial homogeneity". And you all obviously knew what it meant, there wasn't any confusion of what was actually being said here.
      - gjulianm 6y ago
        Exactly, we all knew what it meant, that's why I said it's racist. Thinking that people of the same race will vote the same policies in different countries, or that the only division that makes implementing policies harder is the one of race, or that race must be a dividing block, is just a racist way of thinking.
        crumbshot 6y ago
        > or that the only division that makes implementing policies harder is the one of race, or that race must be a dividing block, is just a racist way of thinking. But politicians do often try to engineer these splits down racial lines, so it often ends up that way in practice. For example, racial minorities being scapegoated for inequalities in society, to try to capture the votes of the racial majority. Dividing people who would otherwise have shared class interests, on issues of race and similar, is a political strategy with a long and sordid history, sadly.
        ttt0 6y ago
        I never said that the same race will vote in the same way in different countries and I never said that it must be anything. And I explicitly stated that it's not the only division. It's basically marketing, you target different audiences. You might call it racist or whatever you want, but the reality is that it works. Just ask capitalists who mastered the craft. If you're by any chance suggesting that demographics simply don't matter in marketing or politics then that'd actually be the most outrageous statement made in this entire thread.
        gjulianm 6y ago
        We're going in a loop. GP comment said that it was easier to implement certain policies in an homogeneous country (and we all understand that the poster means "racially homogeneous"). My point is that racially homogeneous or not, there will be different voting blocs aligned on whatever and implement policies will be different. That's it. I'm not saying it doesn't matter, I'm saying that you can't just say "oh they're all the same race so it's easier" because it isn't necessarily true at all. You can find racially homogeneous countries with non-racial divisions similar or larger than US's racial divisions. That's it, that's the point. Talking just about "racial homogeneity" when discussing implementing certain policies does not make sense at all because then you're ignoring all other possible divisions.

by ttt0 6y ago

gjulianm 6y ago

> In countries like America you have to target and pander to multiple communities with different priorities at the same time to get their vote. Exactly the same as in any other country. Implying that a community is homogeneous just because they have the same skin color is pretty racist.

ttt0 6y ago
> Exactly the same as in any other country. Sure, so let me repeat: > I live in one and people are complaining about elderly being a voting block anyways. Multiracial society would divide it even further. No group is truly homogeneous. We're talking about racial homogeneity. If you don't like that some racial groups are acting as voting blocks then go complain to politicians or those groups, not me.
- gjulianm 6y ago
  > No group is truly homogeneous. We're talking about racial homogeneity. So you do agree that saying that a country is "homogeneous" just because it is racially homogeneous does not make sense?
  - ttt0 6y ago
    No, I don't. Since we can't take it literally, it's an acceptable abbreviation to "racial homogeneity". And you all obviously knew what it meant, there wasn't any confusion of what was actually being said here.
    - gjulianm 6y ago
      Exactly, we all knew what it meant, that's why I said it's racist. Thinking that people of the same race will vote the same policies in different countries, or that the only division that makes implementing policies harder is the one of race, or that race must be a dividing block, is just a racist way of thinking.
      - crumbshot 6y ago
        > or that the only division that makes implementing policies harder is the one of race, or that race must be a dividing block, is just a racist way of thinking. But politicians do often try to engineer these splits down racial lines, so it often ends up that way in practice. For example, racial minorities being scapegoated for inequalities in society, to try to capture the votes of the racial majority. Dividing people who would otherwise have shared class interests, on issues of race and similar, is a political strategy with a long and sordid history, sadly.
      - ttt0 6y ago
        I never said that the same race will vote in the same way in different countries and I never said that it must be anything. And I explicitly stated that it's not the only division. It's basically marketing, you target different audiences. You might call it racist or whatever you want, but the reality is that it works. Just ask capitalists who mastered the craft. If you're by any chance suggesting that demographics simply don't matter in marketing or politics then that'd actually be the most outrageous statement made in this entire thread.
        gjulianm 6y ago
        We're going in a loop. GP comment said that it was easier to implement certain policies in an homogeneous country (and we all understand that the poster means "racially homogeneous"). My point is that racially homogeneous or not, there will be different voting blocs aligned on whatever and implement policies will be different. That's it. I'm not saying it doesn't matter, I'm saying that you can't just say "oh they're all the same race so it's easier" because it isn't necessarily true at all. You can find racially homogeneous countries with non-racial divisions similar or larger than US's racial divisions. That's it, that's the point. Talking just about "racial homogeneity" when discussing implementing certain policies does not make sense at all because then you're ignoring all other possible divisions.