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"Won’t governments ban Signal now? So far, we haven’t seen any indication this will happen. It has been possible to install open-source Monero wallets in the
by chaps 6y ago
"Won’t governments ban Signal now?
So far, we haven’t seen any indication this will happen. It has been possible to install open-source Monero wallets in the App Store and Play Store nearly anywhere in the world for many years now (excluding authoritarian countries — but they’ve already banned Signal anyway). For the most part, non-custodial cryptocurrency wallets are easily accessible."
Really...? Edit: "excluding authoritarian countries" doesn't help your case in the way you think it does..
"Some jurisdictions have gone even further and imposed restrictions on investments in cryptocurrencies, the extent of which varies from one jurisdiction to another. Some (Algeria, Bolivia, Morocco, Nepal, Pakistan, and Vietnam) ban any and all activities involving cryptocurrencies." [1]
Signal being banned in Iran. [2]
Signal being banned in China. [3]
They also mention that this isn't a money grab because Signal needs funding. Signal has a 105 million dollar "loan" with zero interest with a repayment requirement in 2068.
This opinion piece is a joke.
[1] https://www.loc.gov/law/help/cryptocurrency/world-survey.php https://www.loc.gov/law/help/cryptocurrency/world-survey.php
[2] https://signal.org/blog/help-iran-reconnect/ https://signal.org/blog/help-iran-reconnect/
[3] https://www.protocol.com/is-signal-blocked-in-china https://www.protocol.com/is-signal-blocked-in-china
- brnt 6y agoYou reply is some quotes, establishing that in two countries Signal was already blocked, and an exclamation. I fail to see how you reached your conclusion.
- chaps 6y agoDo you really not see how the blanket banning of cryptocurrency and the blanket banning of signal itself isn't a tad bit of an indication that signal will get more blanket bans when combining the two? They're fundamentally saying that no inductive evidence exists despite clear inductive evidence existing. Seriously, what more do you want?
- brnt 6y agoBlanket banning of crypto is, as you wrote, limited to the usual suspects. In the EU it's treated like any other asset, my tax office here has been asking me to declare any, alongside (foreign) cash, banks, etc for years now. So no, more blanket banning does not seems likely to me.
- chaps 6y agoThe point of my post was to point out that their statement that there was no indication was wrong. Not sure what your mention of the EU has to do with anything. In any case, we'll see. My money's on it being a complete shit show two months from now.
- Tepix 6y agoThe article also mentions that Signal can block the crypto payments in some countries to prevent being blocked.
- chaps 6y agoThen why not make another damn app?! This is insane.
- qqii 6y agoYou have to begin wjth the premise that Moxie would like to add payment integration to Signal, in which cake making another app doesn't fulfill the goal. You could also argue against the premise that a secure chat app needs payment integration, but that's one to bring up on twitter against Moxie.
- ac29 6y agoThere really is no technical way to 100% prevent specific countries from using a given piece of software via the internet. Plenty of crypto platforms have claimed to ban US users (often with laughably weak techniques like IP block bans), only to be questioned by US authorities who basically say "OK, prove it (with KYC/AML)".
- Tepix 6y agoSignal has the benefit of knowing the user's phone number.