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This stuff will never end... I give up with everything...

by winocm 5y ago

ReptileMan 5y ago
Learning to live with low systematic risk is also a way forward. We have learned to live with the flu and other diseases - and people still die from them.
- cblconfederate 5y ago
  Tbf i was never comfortable with the seasonal flus and colds. Why are we tolerating that as a necessary evil, loss of productivity, people losing a week of their lives. Schools and workplaces are not even trying to mitigate the spread during high flu season, and that's wrong.
  - drawfloat 5y ago
    Because the way to stop the spread of flu would be living in full lockdown forever. Not only would that be the end for most of the economy, just a year has shown the other serious negative health impacts that inflicts on people. We have locked down to deal with the imminent disaster posed by COVID-19, but pretending this is sustainable in the long term is delusional. Illness is a fact of life. Maybe one day we'll cure flu and the common cold, but in the meantime we accept the minimal risk in exchange for being able to actually enjoy life.
    - cblconfederate 5y ago
      We can adapt some things though, e.g. move school holidays to overlap with high flu season. Reduce office spread by managing people appropriate etc. Illness is certainly natural, but hoarding kids in classrooms and packing people in trains are not.
    - dredmorbius 5y ago
      Sick leave, masking, vacation scheduling, and vaccination requirements would make a huge degree of progress.
georgeplusplus 5y ago
Hey man just wanted to say don’t give up. It will end but requires resilience to get through. I’ve found if I focus my mental energy on the things in my life I can control rather than the things I can’t, I am much happier. I felt suffocated from the lockdowns here in Europe and took a vacation to one of the only country accepting tourists and sunny. I was judged and mocked by my coworkers but I didn’t care it’s none of their business. In planning my trip, there were tons of what if’s and worries about flight cancellations or if the lockdown becomes stricter but I was prepared to accept whatever just to get some sense of normalcy. It helped my mental healthy immensely.
cblconfederate 5y ago
humans do not give up, we adapt
- dotancohen 5y ago
  Humanity adapts, but some humans do give up.
- spookthesunset 5y ago
  There is nothing to adapt to. We need to just live with this thing. These restrictions and non stop panic are not sustainable human practices. We need to accept covid is here to stay and return back to pre-pandemic 2019 normal. Full stop. There is vastly more problems in the world than exactly one very specific disease. People have become hypersensitive to COVID-19 and we are monitoring it to a level never seen before in human history. I have little doubt if we tracked other viruses the same we we are tracking this one, there would be just as many fear inducing variants and oddities. I see this same behavior with server monitoring. If your log levels are too high, you lose the signal in the noise. We have our covid logs cranked up to verbose... most of what we see is just noise.
  - cblconfederate 5y ago
    We can also adapt to one-trick politicians
  - objectivetruth 5y ago
    > People have become hypersensitive to COVID-19 and we are monitoring it to a level never seen before in human history. That's because the last time a novel virus appeared on the scene and killed millions of people, we didn't have DNA and RNA profiling technologies and thousands of epidemiologists and thousands of biotechnology labs around the world able to collaborate instantly. > There is vastly more problems in the world than exactly one very specific disease. Nobody should argue with you on that! Thankfully, lots of people kept working on these other problems over the past year, thanks to humanity's capacity to deal with more than one global issue at a time. > We need to accept covid is here to stay and return back to pre-pandemic 2019 normal. Well, here in the US at least, there are nearly 600,000 less people so things won't ever be back to how they were in 2019. The families of all of those dead people can't just "return back" and pretend that Uncle Ted didn't choke to death, alone, in an ICU last year. The millions of lost jobs, ruined companies, and devastated households won't just bounce back by saying "OK, go back to 'normal' now!" The plan that you're pushing might have been accepted as brutal but realistic and implemented 11 months ago... and the US would have lost a couple of million folks instead of 560,000. Thankfully, empathy won out over sociopathy and we worked on mitigation and vaccine development. The fastest way to get back to anything approaching "normal" is to vaccinate everybody and drive the disease out of circulation. Like we did with polio and smallpox. And it's important to study and monitor the virus and the vaccine so we can continue that process effectively and hopefully less people die.

This stuff will never end... I give up with everything...

by winocm 5y ago

This stuff will never end... I give up with everything...

Learning to live with low systematic risk is also a way forward. We have learned to live with the flu and other diseases - and people still die from them.

cblconfederate 5y ago
Tbf i was never comfortable with the seasonal flus and colds. Why are we tolerating that as a necessary evil, loss of productivity, people losing a week of their lives. Schools and workplaces are not even trying to mitigate the spread during high flu season, and that's wrong.
- drawfloat 5y ago
  Because the way to stop the spread of flu would be living in full lockdown forever. Not only would that be the end for most of the economy, just a year has shown the other serious negative health impacts that inflicts on people. We have locked down to deal with the imminent disaster posed by COVID-19, but pretending this is sustainable in the long term is delusional. Illness is a fact of life. Maybe one day we'll cure flu and the common cold, but in the meantime we accept the minimal risk in exchange for being able to actually enjoy life.
  - cblconfederate 5y ago
    We can adapt some things though, e.g. move school holidays to overlap with high flu season. Reduce office spread by managing people appropriate etc. Illness is certainly natural, but hoarding kids in classrooms and packing people in trains are not.
  - dredmorbius 5y ago
    Sick leave, masking, vacation scheduling, and vaccination requirements would make a huge degree of progress.

georgeplusplus 5y ago

Hey man just wanted to say don’t give up. It will end but requires resilience to get through. I’ve found if I focus my mental energy on the things in my life I can control rather than the things I can’t, I am much happier. I felt suffocated from the lockdowns here in Europe and took a vacation to one of the only country accepting tourists and sunny. I was judged and mocked by my coworkers but I didn’t care it’s none of their business. In planning my trip, there were tons of what if’s and worries about flight cancellations or if the lockdown becomes stricter but I was prepared to accept whatever just to get some sense of normalcy. It helped my mental healthy immensely.

cblconfederate 5y ago

humans do not give up, we adapt

dotancohen 5y ago
Humanity adapts, but some humans do give up.
spookthesunset 5y ago
There is nothing to adapt to. We need to just live with this thing. These restrictions and non stop panic are not sustainable human practices. We need to accept covid is here to stay and return back to pre-pandemic 2019 normal. Full stop. There is vastly more problems in the world than exactly one very specific disease. People have become hypersensitive to COVID-19 and we are monitoring it to a level never seen before in human history. I have little doubt if we tracked other viruses the same we we are tracking this one, there would be just as many fear inducing variants and oddities. I see this same behavior with server monitoring. If your log levels are too high, you lose the signal in the noise. We have our covid logs cranked up to verbose... most of what we see is just noise.
- cblconfederate 5y ago
  We can also adapt to one-trick politicians
- objectivetruth 5y ago
  > People have become hypersensitive to COVID-19 and we are monitoring it to a level never seen before in human history. That's because the last time a novel virus appeared on the scene and killed millions of people, we didn't have DNA and RNA profiling technologies and thousands of epidemiologists and thousands of biotechnology labs around the world able to collaborate instantly. > There is vastly more problems in the world than exactly one very specific disease. Nobody should argue with you on that! Thankfully, lots of people kept working on these other problems over the past year, thanks to humanity's capacity to deal with more than one global issue at a time. > We need to accept covid is here to stay and return back to pre-pandemic 2019 normal. Well, here in the US at least, there are nearly 600,000 less people so things won't ever be back to how they were in 2019. The families of all of those dead people can't just "return back" and pretend that Uncle Ted didn't choke to death, alone, in an ICU last year. The millions of lost jobs, ruined companies, and devastated households won't just bounce back by saying "OK, go back to 'normal' now!" The plan that you're pushing might have been accepted as brutal but realistic and implemented 11 months ago... and the US would have lost a couple of million folks instead of 560,000. Thankfully, empathy won out over sociopathy and we worked on mitigation and vaccine development. The fastest way to get back to anything approaching "normal" is to vaccinate everybody and drive the disease out of circulation. Like we did with polio and smallpox. And it's important to study and monitor the virus and the vaccine so we can continue that process effectively and hopefully less people die.