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Consider the following: the person who questioned the authority of my sources provided no evidence for doing so, but you, that don't have a dog in this fight, a

Consider the following: the person who questioned the authority of my sources provided no evidence for doing so, but you, that don't have a dog in this fight, are specifically asking me to defend against this baseless criticism? My question for you is: why aren't you, renowned dog non-haver in this fight, asking for evidence for the only person in this conversation who provided none? As to the first part of your comment, I can't, for the life of me, figure out how you misinterpreted my observation like that.

AnimalMuppet 5y ago
The top post in this thread was someone asking what made Proud Boys far right. You responded with an accusation of bad faith, and supplied SPLC and Wikipedia as evidence. Then someone said that those sources weren't solid, and asked if you had better sources. You responded by criticizing both accounts for being new, and for not supplying sources themselves, but with no better evidence. (I note with some irony how new your own account is.) The original article made a claim. I don't think, in discussing such an article, that it's fair to immediately assume that it's bad faith to ask for evidence for the claim. Nor do I think that, when someone points out that your evidence is shoddy, and asks if you have any better evidence, that the correct answer is "you didn't supply any". (The actual answer to the question would appear to be "No, I don't".) So I don't like your style of argument here. You're awfully quick to accuse the other side; that's not a good attitude to bring to HN. (They may in fact have been "just asking questions", but that shouldn't have been your assumption right out of the gate. "Assume good faith", as the HN guidelines say.) > As to the first part of your comment, I can't, for the life of me, figure out how you misinterpreted my observation like that. Well, then we're even, because I couldn't figure out what >> Your rambling comment devoid of sources, on the other hand, is academic material on the matter. was trying to say. I made a guess - apparently a wrong one. But even knowing that the guess was wrong, I don't know what you were actually trying to say.
- quantstats 5y ago
  I don’t think you understood my position: I categorically refuse to waste time looking for more sources for someone who critised the first ones I used without providing sources themselves to back up that criticism. It just boils down to having self-respect. If you ever find yourself in my situation I advise you to do the same (I still find your position of asking me instead of them for more evidence to be weird, but I won’t try to understand it on account of the aforementioned not wanting to waste my time).

AnimalMuppet 5y ago

The top post in this thread was someone asking what made Proud Boys far right. You responded with an accusation of bad faith, and supplied SPLC and Wikipedia as evidence. Then someone said that those sources weren't solid, and asked if you had better sources. You responded by criticizing both accounts for being new, and for not supplying sources themselves, but with no better evidence. (I note with some irony how new your own account is.) The original article made a claim. I don't think, in discussing such an article, that it's fair to immediately assume that it's bad faith to ask for evidence for the claim. Nor do I think that, when someone points out that your evidence is shoddy, and asks if you have any better evidence, that the correct answer is "you didn't supply any". (The actual answer to the question would appear to be "No, I don't".) So I don't like your style of argument here. You're awfully quick to accuse the other side; that's not a good attitude to bring to HN. (They may in fact have been "just asking questions", but that shouldn't have been your assumption right out of the gate. "Assume good faith", as the HN guidelines say.) > As to the first part of your comment, I can't, for the life of me, figure out how you misinterpreted my observation like that. Well, then we're even, because I couldn't figure out what >> Your rambling comment devoid of sources, on the other hand, is academic material on the matter. was trying to say. I made a guess - apparently a wrong one. But even knowing that the guess was wrong, I don't know what you were actually trying to say.

quantstats 5y ago
I don’t think you understood my position: I categorically refuse to waste time looking for more sources for someone who critised the first ones I used without providing sources themselves to back up that criticism. It just boils down to having self-respect. If you ever find yourself in my situation I advise you to do the same (I still find your position of asking me instead of them for more evidence to be weird, but I won’t try to understand it on account of the aforementioned not wanting to waste my time).