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Jack Ma is an absolute moron anyway, they built him up and gave him his 'power' so they can take it away.

29athrowaway 6y ago
"I think it is a huge blessing that we can work 996." - Jack Ma on 996 working hour system (9 am to 9 pm, 6 days a week = 72 hours per week). I think it's a huge blessing that he does not have a platform to make stupid comments like that anymore.
- bdcravens 6y ago
  Doesn't the startup world fetishize that kind of schedule?
  - 29athrowaway 6y ago
    Startups fetishize selectively "maximizing the work not done", e.g.: low quality except on the surfaces the customer can see.
    - inglor_cz 6y ago
      IDK what fetishes currently run in the startup community, but simplyfing design is a good thing. A component that has been left out of the system cannot introduce bugs and vulnerabilities into the system. Of course, it only holds up to a point, but "the best part is no part, the best process is no process".
  - jhvkjhk 6y ago
    Leaders in startup world fetishize that kind of schedule. Workers want a normal life. BTW, Alibaba is not a startup.
- A_non_e-moose 6y ago
  https://github.com/996icu/996.ICU https://github.com/996icu/996.ICU
exw 6y ago
This comment is either neither a constructive criticism of him, nor does contribute anything substantive to the discussion. Please review the site guidelines against name calling: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26687330 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26687330
- toomuchtodo 6y ago
  Polite rewrite: “The events that have transpired demonstrate that Jack Ma experienced a disconnect between the power, freedom, and relevance he believed himself to have had and the reality exerted by the Chinese government. This could be viewed as a lack of foresight, exceptional hubris, and inability to interpret ground truth on Ma’s part.”
  - systemvoltage 6y ago
    I must add that OP asserts the Chinese authorities iniquitously and deliberately allowed Jack Ma to acquire power through the success of his enterprise which was struck down swiftly as we are witnessing today. Thus, OP's insight is that the CCP employed an insidous tactic of bait-and-switch, exemplified by the unfolding situation, in order to further their authoritarian interests. Jack Ma's inability to excogitate his own demise is why OP thinks that his mental state is abnormal.
    - gorbachev 6y ago
      Personally I believe it just took CCP some time to figure out how to deal with these uppity billionaires. They couldn't use their normal playbook on how they deal with political opposition, because he wasn't opposing the politics of CCP, or how they deal with the powerless, because he wasn't powerless. Now that they do, heads will roll quickly. The smarter ones will come voluntarily hat in hand and offer tributes. The dumber ones will disappear for a month, and then offer tributes.
      - systemvoltage 6y ago
        For the most part, the world is run by billionaires. They’ll look to China with even more caution.

"I think it is a huge blessing that we can work 996." - Jack Ma on 996 working hour system (9 am to 9 pm, 6 days a week = 72 hours per week). I think it's a huge blessing that he does not have a platform to make stupid comments like that anymore.

bdcravens 6y ago
Doesn't the startup world fetishize that kind of schedule?
- 29athrowaway 6y ago
  Startups fetishize selectively "maximizing the work not done", e.g.: low quality except on the surfaces the customer can see.
  - inglor_cz 6y ago
    IDK what fetishes currently run in the startup community, but simplyfing design is a good thing. A component that has been left out of the system cannot introduce bugs and vulnerabilities into the system. Of course, it only holds up to a point, but "the best part is no part, the best process is no process".
- jhvkjhk 6y ago
  Leaders in startup world fetishize that kind of schedule. Workers want a normal life. BTW, Alibaba is not a startup.
A_non_e-moose 6y ago
https://github.com/996icu/996.ICU https://github.com/996icu/996.ICU

exw 6y ago

This comment is either neither a constructive criticism of him, nor does contribute anything substantive to the discussion. Please review the site guidelines against name calling: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26687330 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26687330

toomuchtodo 6y ago
Polite rewrite: “The events that have transpired demonstrate that Jack Ma experienced a disconnect between the power, freedom, and relevance he believed himself to have had and the reality exerted by the Chinese government. This could be viewed as a lack of foresight, exceptional hubris, and inability to interpret ground truth on Ma’s part.”
- systemvoltage 6y ago
  I must add that OP asserts the Chinese authorities iniquitously and deliberately allowed Jack Ma to acquire power through the success of his enterprise which was struck down swiftly as we are witnessing today. Thus, OP's insight is that the CCP employed an insidous tactic of bait-and-switch, exemplified by the unfolding situation, in order to further their authoritarian interests. Jack Ma's inability to excogitate his own demise is why OP thinks that his mental state is abnormal.
  - gorbachev 6y ago
    Personally I believe it just took CCP some time to figure out how to deal with these uppity billionaires. They couldn't use their normal playbook on how they deal with political opposition, because he wasn't opposing the politics of CCP, or how they deal with the powerless, because he wasn't powerless. Now that they do, heads will roll quickly. The smarter ones will come voluntarily hat in hand and offer tributes. The dumber ones will disappear for a month, and then offer tributes.
    - systemvoltage 6y ago
      For the most part, the world is run by billionaires. They’ll look to China with even more caution.