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and look at the Crunchbase profile of Turing.com , they actually got a lot of attention from VCs, (raised over $40M during 2020) and more similar hiring agencie

and look at the Crunchbase profile of Turing.com , they actually got a lot of attention from VCs, (raised over $40M during 2020) and more similar hiring agencies are copying this business model, this crewscale.com has an almost full list in their comparison: Toptal, Crewscale, Upwork, Turing, Upstack, Fiverr, ... As this list will for sure grow longer and longer, many US employers will get lured into this model, hiring junior to mid seniors from such agencies instead, so in not-far future, will this hiring model become a mainstream? Are any US based engineers getting this fear? I know for the top ones who earns $500k+ annually, your job will probably still be kept in US, but all the whole size of US software dev jobs will largely shift to overseas, for those junior to mid-senior levels, your jobs are not replaced by AIs but more probably lost to overseas https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/turing https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/turing https://www.crewscale.com/ https://www.crewscale.com/ COMPARE Crewscale Vs Toptal Toptal Alternative Crewscale Vs Upwork Upwork Alternative Crewscale Vs Turing Turing Alternative Crewscale Vs Upstack Crewscale Vs Fiverr Crewscale Vs Andela

TOSSAWAY_1 5y ago
Im pretty sure that was on the ballot during the recent election and the Americans voted against that sort of protectionist mindset.
- tZdKRNGW 5y ago
  it depends on whom do you stand for? as a US-based remote developer, like in this Quora thread, you for sure don't want to work via Turing/Andela/Upstack/... for a US employer, right? because Turing/Andela/Upstack/... are withholding more than 50% of your income as their profit, that's why these kinds of agencies can get high profit / high funding and high valuation from Crunchbase link you can see; https://www.quora.com/Has-anyone-tried-Turing-Is-it-any-good-for-finding-gigs-What-does-the-process-look-like-after-registering-with-them https://www.quora.com/Has-anyone-tried-Turing-Is-it-any-good... > TL;DR: they are OK but they take more than 50% of your paycheck forever and give you practically zero benefits for it. It’s better to avoid them and wait for another opportunity. If you're with entrepreneur mindset want to hire, or standing as US employer point of view, you'll more probably like to hire 3 oversea's remote role than a single US-based, or only hiring 1/10th in the US to manage rest of all overseas; as I've shown in the LA based software company; If you are already the top earning ones ($500k+), you have no concerns for yourself, but for next generation new graduates, I have seen this trend of a US company would rather hire overseas via those agencies instead of hiring the US based, I am seeing a pessimistic future for them As of 2021, there may not be many US companies seeing this opportunity to cut R&D costs yet, but as the list of Crewscale/Turing/Andela/Upstack/... growing longer and longer, many of them are aggressively reaching to US employers for upselling remote devs (overseas), then majority of US employers will be able to see Another example here: Invision is another US employer (New York based), back in 2019 their major hiring were still US-based W2 employment, forward to 2021 they are seeing the great opportunity to hire via upstack... https://twitter.com/upstackhq/status/1374826625108426764 https://twitter.com/upstackhq/status/1374826625108426764

TOSSAWAY_1 5y ago

Im pretty sure that was on the ballot during the recent election and the Americans voted against that sort of protectionist mindset.

tZdKRNGW 5y ago
it depends on whom do you stand for? as a US-based remote developer, like in this Quora thread, you for sure don't want to work via Turing/Andela/Upstack/... for a US employer, right? because Turing/Andela/Upstack/... are withholding more than 50% of your income as their profit, that's why these kinds of agencies can get high profit / high funding and high valuation from Crunchbase link you can see; https://www.quora.com/Has-anyone-tried-Turing-Is-it-any-good-for-finding-gigs-What-does-the-process-look-like-after-registering-with-them https://www.quora.com/Has-anyone-tried-Turing-Is-it-any-good... > TL;DR: they are OK but they take more than 50% of your paycheck forever and give you practically zero benefits for it. It’s better to avoid them and wait for another opportunity. If you're with entrepreneur mindset want to hire, or standing as US employer point of view, you'll more probably like to hire 3 oversea's remote role than a single US-based, or only hiring 1/10th in the US to manage rest of all overseas; as I've shown in the LA based software company; If you are already the top earning ones ($500k+), you have no concerns for yourself, but for next generation new graduates, I have seen this trend of a US company would rather hire overseas via those agencies instead of hiring the US based, I am seeing a pessimistic future for them As of 2021, there may not be many US companies seeing this opportunity to cut R&D costs yet, but as the list of Crewscale/Turing/Andela/Upstack/... growing longer and longer, many of them are aggressively reaching to US employers for upselling remote devs (overseas), then majority of US employers will be able to see Another example here: Invision is another US employer (New York based), back in 2019 their major hiring were still US-based W2 employment, forward to 2021 they are seeing the great opportunity to hire via upstack... https://twitter.com/upstackhq/status/1374826625108426764 https://twitter.com/upstackhq/status/1374826625108426764