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I’m with you. Story time: Years ago the Signal app would silently wake up in the background, upload 20MB+ of my contacts’ photos, and then shutdown and do it a

by varenc 6y ago

I’m with you. Story time: Years ago the Signal app would silently wake up in the background, upload 20MB+ of my contacts’ photos, and then shutdown and do it all over again every time I received a silent notification. Due to my membership in a few large groups this was very often. The result was gigabytes of cellar data usage in a week. Fortunately my experience was rare because I both had a lot of contacts with photos and I ran the desktop app. But it was infuriating to track down and it made me realize that silent wake ups were even possible on iOS. (Or used to be) I don’t know what the right balance is, but I think there should be some middle ground.

Andrew_nenakhov 6y ago
Fun fact: Apple still allows signal, telegram, WhatsApp and few other high profile developers to use VoIP notifications without mandatory calling up VoiceKit. Because they can't work as smooth as users are used to they work with these new rules for notifications. So, no, nothing 'improved' in your Signal experience. At least, not yet. All developers are equal, but some are more equal than others.
- girvo 6y ago
  To be honest, all developers have never been equal. At least not over the last 20 years that I’ve been paying attention.
  - Andrew_nenakhov 6y ago
    On deaktops, neither windows nor dlinux do not behave differently depending on developer's name. I see no reason why mobile devices should be any different. I wonder if there are grounds for anti-monopoly lawsuits.
    - girvo 6y ago
      Windows absolutely does: it has a large collection of various hacks in place to detect specific applications to keep the running across newer versions of Windows. This is neat in a technical sense, but you’ve gotta be on Microsoft’s radar and worth it for them to put that sort of effort in for you. On top of that, the partner support you used to get from Microsoft if you were a developer they cared about was orders of magnitude more helpful and useful than what you’d get if you weren’t a preferred partner. Linux, you’re more correct I’d think.
      - Andrew_nenakhov 6y ago
        I mean, if the apps is built for current windows, it runs and has all access to all APIs the system has for apps. So apps like Transmission will load after startup and will be seeding torrents in the background, you don't have to be on some special list to do that.

by varenc 6y ago

Andrew_nenakhov 6y ago

Fun fact: Apple still allows signal, telegram, WhatsApp and few other high profile developers to use VoIP notifications without mandatory calling up VoiceKit. Because they can't work as smooth as users are used to they work with these new rules for notifications. So, no, nothing 'improved' in your Signal experience. At least, not yet. All developers are equal, but some are more equal than others.

girvo 6y ago
To be honest, all developers have never been equal. At least not over the last 20 years that I’ve been paying attention.
- Andrew_nenakhov 6y ago
  On deaktops, neither windows nor dlinux do not behave differently depending on developer's name. I see no reason why mobile devices should be any different. I wonder if there are grounds for anti-monopoly lawsuits.
  - girvo 6y ago
    Windows absolutely does: it has a large collection of various hacks in place to detect specific applications to keep the running across newer versions of Windows. This is neat in a technical sense, but you’ve gotta be on Microsoft’s radar and worth it for them to put that sort of effort in for you. On top of that, the partner support you used to get from Microsoft if you were a developer they cared about was orders of magnitude more helpful and useful than what you’d get if you weren’t a preferred partner. Linux, you’re more correct I’d think.
    - Andrew_nenakhov 6y ago
      I mean, if the apps is built for current windows, it runs and has all access to all APIs the system has for apps. So apps like Transmission will load after startup and will be seeding torrents in the background, you don't have to be on some special list to do that.