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I disagree. I'm currently building a live webapp, and all of my users want to receive notifications when shows are going to start, so they don't miss anything.

by GranPC 6y ago

I disagree. I'm currently building a live webapp, and all of my users want to receive notifications when shows are going to start, so they don't miss anything. Since WebPush is pretty much unusable (unsupported on iOS, useless on Android) I had to resort to sending SMS to each of my users, which is expensive and a worse experience. Just because the API is often used for evil, it doesn't mean that the API itself is hostile. I can think of many usecases where a properly functioning web push notification API would be desirable - the unfortunate truth is that the current implementation makes it useless for most real world scenarios.

tpxl 6y ago
Whats wrong with email?
- GranPC 6y ago
  Most users don't receive timely push notifications when an email is received. Especially in the case of Gmail, which is the most popular email provider with Android users, since they employ an algorithm to automatically categorize emails in categories such as "promotions" and "updates" - which causes those emails to not trigger a notification.
  - kiwijamo 6y ago
    Emails could be used to send users of up-coming shows ahead of time. I turn off notifications for everything (except SMS and alarms) as I frequently am not in a position to drop everything and do something just because I receive a notification. I just catch up on my messages every now and then and from my emails I can schedule any important alarms for times I need to do something or add things to my calendar so I know what's happening. Instant notification are a huge disruption to my workflow and rarely benefit me.
    - GranPC 6y ago
      Well yeah, all users can see the schedule at any time by visiting the website. They still want a notification to serve as a reminder, because many people are forgetful, especially new users who haven't gotten used to the schedule yet.
  - tpxl 6y ago
    Sorry, I misunderstood. I thought you were notifying them of shows in advance, but I see now it's meant to be a "the show is about to start now" notification. I see why mail wouldn't work for that.

by GranPC 6y ago

tpxl 6y ago

Whats wrong with email?

GranPC 6y ago
Most users don't receive timely push notifications when an email is received. Especially in the case of Gmail, which is the most popular email provider with Android users, since they employ an algorithm to automatically categorize emails in categories such as "promotions" and "updates" - which causes those emails to not trigger a notification.
- kiwijamo 6y ago
  Emails could be used to send users of up-coming shows ahead of time. I turn off notifications for everything (except SMS and alarms) as I frequently am not in a position to drop everything and do something just because I receive a notification. I just catch up on my messages every now and then and from my emails I can schedule any important alarms for times I need to do something or add things to my calendar so I know what's happening. Instant notification are a huge disruption to my workflow and rarely benefit me.
  - GranPC 6y ago
    Well yeah, all users can see the schedule at any time by visiting the website. They still want a notification to serve as a reminder, because many people are forgetful, especially new users who haven't gotten used to the schedule yet.
- tpxl 6y ago
  Sorry, I misunderstood. I thought you were notifying them of shows in advance, but I see now it's meant to be a "the show is about to start now" notification. I see why mail wouldn't work for that.