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It's 2021 and I'm in Europe, and I still use missed calls for calling my family abroad. Typically goes like this: - I call them on Whatsapp, but their Android
by jakub_g 6y ago
It's 2021 and I'm in Europe, and I still use missed calls for calling my family abroad. Typically goes like this:
- I call them on Whatsapp, but their Android phone is sleeping so they don't receive the call notif on Whatsapp
- I send a missed call via GSM to wake their phone
- They call back on Whatsapp
International calls are still expensive even within EU, while huge data packages are included in even cheap monthly subs. I can't comprehend the GSM operators' logic.
- ThePowerOfFuet 6y ago> I call them on Whatsapp, but their Android phone is sleeping so they don't receive the call notif on Whatsapp Is Android really that terrible?
- zwayhowder 6y agoNo, I receive Whatsapp call notifications when the phone is off. But it's also a setting that can be disabled. The scenario described doesn't remotely match the user experience I have with Whatsapp calls.
- jakub_g 6y agoIt highly depends on manufacturer and phone settings. Some manufacturers have very aggressive battery optimizations by default to claim "look how awesome our battery life is!"
- kiwijamo 6y agoiOS is the same. My husband has an iPhone and I frequently find he doesn't receive WhatsApps notifications in good time. So for urgent messages I now SMS him. And if I send him photos etc I SMS him to check his WhatsApp. Perhaps it's more something to do with WhatsApp's infrastructure than iOS/Android?
- maven29 6y agoMost Android phones let you turn off mobile data and Wi-Fi while the screen is off. Something similar might be at play, since FCM is pretty reliable, even with the most brutal doze parameters and additional power optimization measures imposed by manufacturers.
- jakub_g 6y agoAFAIU each Android manufacturer has their own ad-hoc battery optimizations and opts-in most apps to it by default and users need to opt out. It's a wild west. I think stuff might work for a while when screen is off but if the phone lies idle for hours, apps get killed etc. and the phone checks for notifs only once in a long while.
- fxtentacle 6y agoWhatsApp is. My wife has the same issue on her iPhone.
- bellyfullofbac 6y agohttps://dontkillmyapp.com https://dontkillmyapp.com Pretty much, and I say this as an Android user. The OEMs brag about "long battery life!" but they're fucking up by hibernating apps in the background.
- TeMPOraL 6y agoInteresting how things turned around on their head. Until recently, one thing I hated in smartphones was task management. There was no way to kill an app and keep it dead, no way to manage what processes are running on the phone at any given moment. There were third-party task managers that sorta, kinda sometimes worked, but the phone fought you hard. I'm kind of sympathetic to the phone vendors here - the app ecosystem is a mess, every app vendor feels way too entitled to their users' resources.
- jakub_g 6y agoSignal has a mega-FAQ article on troubleshooting notifications per Android version and vendor: https://support.signal.org/hc/en-us/articles/360007318711-Troubleshooting-Notifications https://support.signal.org/hc/en-us/articles/360007318711-Tr...
- xvector 6y agoThis is honestly absurd
- tgsovlerkhgsel 6y agoNot consistently - most of the time it works, but it still happens often enough.
- nikau 6y agoNope, it's likely some vendor modified android that is aggressively terminating background services to save battery