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Seems somewhat oversimplified. It's much easier to "overdose" on LSD or MDMA than tobacco or alcohol. Additionally, frequent use of LSD and MDMA have pretty sev

Seems somewhat oversimplified. It's much easier to "overdose" on LSD or MDMA than tobacco or alcohol. Additionally, frequent use of LSD and MDMA have pretty severe health consequences much sooner than frequent use of tobacco or alcohol. I'd also add that LSD poses a similar driving hazard to alcohol. On the other hand, tobacco and alcohol don't have any therapeutic qualities unlike MDMA and LSD. Personally. I think alcohol's harm is amplified by its prevalence throughout society, if one could buy MDMA and LSD at every shop and venue it'd be a disaster on par or worse than alcohol. edit: adding some sources https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0007091217350845 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S000709121... https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/psychological-medicine/article/paradoxical-psychological-effects-of-lysergic-acid-diethylamide-lsd/FA7A234B809A951253AF5C29AC79CA4A https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/psychological-medici...

woopwoop 6y ago
As far as I know, there are literally no deaths attributable to LSD overdose. It is safe (if only in the sense of acute poisoning) to take even at much higher than the typical dose. On the other hand, thousands of people die of alcohol poisoning in the United States every year.
- anaerobicover 6y ago
  You can't meaningfully compare absolute numbers there, though, given the huge disparity in availability and perception. (LSD is "special" in a way alcohol is not: people may be more likely to be cautious when using it.)
  - woopwoop 6y ago
    But I think the LSD number is literally zero, ever.
tayo42 6y ago
You have a source on this? Mdma and lsd are pretty self regulating. mdma will just stop working and lsd likely will just kick your ass sooner or later. opiates and alcohol can be insidious addictions that become normal parts of your life.
ssijak 6y ago
Lsd and mdma build up tolerance quite fast and have crosstolerance between each other. Also, almost zero people take lsd and drive. And lsd is anti addictive in general.

woopwoop 6y ago

As far as I know, there are literally no deaths attributable to LSD overdose. It is safe (if only in the sense of acute poisoning) to take even at much higher than the typical dose. On the other hand, thousands of people die of alcohol poisoning in the United States every year.

anaerobicover 6y ago
You can't meaningfully compare absolute numbers there, though, given the huge disparity in availability and perception. (LSD is "special" in a way alcohol is not: people may be more likely to be cautious when using it.)
- woopwoop 6y ago
  But I think the LSD number is literally zero, ever.

tayo42 6y ago

You have a source on this? Mdma and lsd are pretty self regulating. mdma will just stop working and lsd likely will just kick your ass sooner or later. opiates and alcohol can be insidious addictions that become normal parts of your life.

ssijak 6y ago

Lsd and mdma build up tolerance quite fast and have crosstolerance between each other. Also, almost zero people take lsd and drive. And lsd is anti addictive in general.