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Hong Kong is inside China and a lot has been happening in recent years as we become more integrated with the mainland. Also, SCMP has been owned by Alibaba for

by robjan 6y ago

Hong Kong is inside China and a lot has been happening in recent years as we become more integrated with the mainland. Also, SCMP has been owned by Alibaba for the past five years and since then has been a lot less editorially independent.

throwaway4good 6y ago
But The Hindu writes the same story, so surely this is not relevant here?
- Zandikar 6y ago
  No, it's still relevant. The US Operations whole intent was to challenge China's expanding territorial sea claims, and more generally to reaffirm the Freedom of Navigation in accordance with International law (and not just against China), something the US Navy does often across the globe. It's not the first time it's done this in these waters either. China would absolutely seize the opportunity to amplify and focus on the protests of a US ally that feels the US had violated their waters/domestic laws in some way. A propaganda outlet seizing on the opportunity to focus on a disagreement between allies that it's antagonistic with is unsurprising. Just because The Hindu and the SCMP both reported on the incident does not itself vindicate the SCMP or it's reporting. Note the difference in reporting between the SCMP and The Hindu (Indian) with regard to the detail spent on the Exclusive Economic Zone, Domestic Waters, counterclaims from the US, etc. EEZ =/= Internationally Recognized Territorial Waters. This was not a violation of Sovereign Territory. The real story here (if there is one at all) is the US not giving India a heads up ahead of time (which it's not required to do, but it would be a friendly gesture among allies). Meanwhile the SCMP makes it sound like the USN violated sovereign territory, and is capitalizing and small political spat between friends to justify it's own complaints against the US (and others) not recognizing the CCP's territorial overreach

by robjan 6y ago

throwaway4good 6y ago

But The Hindu writes the same story, so surely this is not relevant here?

Zandikar 6y ago
No, it's still relevant. The US Operations whole intent was to challenge China's expanding territorial sea claims, and more generally to reaffirm the Freedom of Navigation in accordance with International law (and not just against China), something the US Navy does often across the globe. It's not the first time it's done this in these waters either. China would absolutely seize the opportunity to amplify and focus on the protests of a US ally that feels the US had violated their waters/domestic laws in some way. A propaganda outlet seizing on the opportunity to focus on a disagreement between allies that it's antagonistic with is unsurprising. Just because The Hindu and the SCMP both reported on the incident does not itself vindicate the SCMP or it's reporting. Note the difference in reporting between the SCMP and The Hindu (Indian) with regard to the detail spent on the Exclusive Economic Zone, Domestic Waters, counterclaims from the US, etc. EEZ =/= Internationally Recognized Territorial Waters. This was not a violation of Sovereign Territory. The real story here (if there is one at all) is the US not giving India a heads up ahead of time (which it's not required to do, but it would be a friendly gesture among allies). Meanwhile the SCMP makes it sound like the USN violated sovereign territory, and is capitalizing and small political spat between friends to justify it's own complaints against the US (and others) not recognizing the CCP's territorial overreach