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There are many simps who would defend the Google-or-Apple's right to get a fixed cut from a 3rd party's work while also denying any other ways for that 3rd part

by Qahlel 6y ago

There are many simps who would defend the Google-or-Apple's right to get a fixed cut from a 3rd party's work while also denying any other ways for that 3rd party to profit from its own work at the same time. Don't be that guy. Please. I don't like state capitalism. I genuinely hate digital monopoly capitalism. I do love free market capitalism btw.

muro 6y ago
Host the apk on your website and you can do whatever you like and not pay Google anything.
- anoncake 6y ago
  Unless you like providing auto-updates.
  - muro 6y ago
    I didn't think of that and didn't know that's not possible. Thanks.
seaman1921 6y ago
Yes they have a right if you are using their play store. You can host your app elsewhere mr. free market
judge2020 6y ago
> while also denying any other ways for that 3rd party to profit from its own work at the same time. It’s obvious that Google and Apple have a duopoly in mobile phones, and that makes sense since it takes a lot of time and money do so and most developers don’t want to deploy to an extra platform that doesn’t have any users (and thus you have a chicken-and-egg problem where users/phone manufacturers don’t want to switch to your platform with no apps due to this). If these monopolies are exploiting their position via anti-competitive business practices, then the current antitrust probes will hopefully deal with them and force some change. But you can’t ignore the reality of the current situation: Google and Apple have invested trillions of combined dollars into developing the mobile phone ecosystem and making it something that consumers feel safe conducting commerce on (Apple more so than Google). You’re not paying for a vhost to host your apk or ipa when you pay percentages of your in-app purchase revenue, you’re paying for the development of the operating system, payment system, and future APIs that enable your app to even exist. If you don’t like it, you are not forced to have a native app, as on Android and even on iOS you can make an offline-capable PWA.

by Qahlel 6y ago

muro 6y ago

Host the apk on your website and you can do whatever you like and not pay Google anything.

anoncake 6y ago
Unless you like providing auto-updates.
- muro 6y ago
  I didn't think of that and didn't know that's not possible. Thanks.

seaman1921 6y ago

Yes they have a right if you are using their play store. You can host your app elsewhere mr. free market

judge2020 6y ago

> while also denying any other ways for that 3rd party to profit from its own work at the same time. It’s obvious that Google and Apple have a duopoly in mobile phones, and that makes sense since it takes a lot of time and money do so and most developers don’t want to deploy to an extra platform that doesn’t have any users (and thus you have a chicken-and-egg problem where users/phone manufacturers don’t want to switch to your platform with no apps due to this). If these monopolies are exploiting their position via anti-competitive business practices, then the current antitrust probes will hopefully deal with them and force some change. But you can’t ignore the reality of the current situation: Google and Apple have invested trillions of combined dollars into developing the mobile phone ecosystem and making it something that consumers feel safe conducting commerce on (Apple more so than Google). You’re not paying for a vhost to host your apk or ipa when you pay percentages of your in-app purchase revenue, you’re paying for the development of the operating system, payment system, and future APIs that enable your app to even exist. If you don’t like it, you are not forced to have a native app, as on Android and even on iOS you can make an offline-capable PWA.