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Show HN: CardanoCubes – Pokemon Red on the Cardano Blockchain

22 points by Pungsnigel 6y ago

nazgulsenpai 6y ago
This is a super neat idea. Hopefully Nintendo's lawyers don't show up to the party and pour out everyone's drinks.
Pungsnigel 6y ago
Don't know how many here have an interest in Cardano, but hopefully at least a few. Spent a few weekends building this, where we hook a gameboy emulator to the Cardano blockchain. Main idea is to allow for a community playthrough. Had there not been random elements in the game, you'd be able to re-play the entire playthrough locally by just applying the same rules we've done.
yao420 6y ago
This is awesome, I’ll try it this weekend.
- Pungsnigel 6y ago
  Cool! I’d love any feedback you have!
throw4738 6y ago
》To make a move you need to send $1 to this address. This is very expensive and not very scalable.
- Pungsnigel 6y ago
  1 ADA is the lowest amount on the Cardano chain. I'd prefer it to be much lower for this game. I'm releasing an update soon where you'll be able to make multiple moves with one transaction (still 1 ADA), but that's the only way I've found to lower the cost of playing.
  - Tenoke 6y ago
    What? You can send 0.01 ADA or less, can't you? + maybe .12 for gas.
    - Pungsnigel 6y ago
      Nope, lowest amount is 1 ADA, transaction fees are usually around 0.17. I'd expect this to be lowered in the future. 1 ADA wasn't much until a few months ago really.
  - throw4738 6y ago
    Make it sidechain. And find some use case, turn based game is lame on blockchain. Maybe tournament with multiple parties and validation of winners.
    - PretzelPirate 6y ago
      This seems to be a Cardano staking company who are trying to market themselves. I doubt they’d want to go with a sidechain since their entire business is to have people stake in the main chain. They could go with a layer 2 network, but Cardano hasn’t implemented smart contracts or their Hydra state channels system yet.
- tluyben2 6y ago
  It's not, but on the other hand; not sure if Cardano fans are like eth/btc people; the 'non investor' fans of the latter that I know (some with millions $ in them, some with a more modest amounts) or read about online have no 'feeling' for the relation with the $. For them spending $100 in eth/btc is not the same as spending actual $100. I helped some friends add crypto payments for their services/products (because of covid) and they all say that crypto people/fans are far easier to deal with; they don't care about fees/rate, they round up and they don't ask for refunds under $100.
moonbug 6y ago
fuck off with your fucking Blockchain bollocks.
- CynicusRex 6y ago
  I wholeheartedly share this sentiment. The blockchain scene is one big marketing and advertising cesspool. Completely devoid of soul.
  - dang 5y ago
    Would you please stop posting in the flamewar style to HN? You've been doing it repeatedly and it's not what this site is for. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.
- dang 5y ago
  Breaking the site guidelines like this will get you banned on HN, regardless of how you feel about Blockchain or anything else. Please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and don't post like this again. Edit: you've mostly been posting unsubstantive and/or flamebait comments. Can you please not do this? It's exactly the opposite of the kind of discussion we're trying for here. It isn't only that comments like these burn community health points—the greater issue is the example they set for others. It's all too easy for an internet forum to spiral into decay, and we're trying to stave that off if possible. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=stave%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so...
bhaak 6y ago
If I understand it correctly, you play by putting your moves on the blockchain here. That’s the play by Twitch Chat concept ported to a blockchain? What advantage does this have besides the moves being recorded on the blockchain? It’s more expensive and it’s slower (Cardano has 20 seconds block time IIRC). Nothing is running ON the blockchain. Cardano doesn’t have smart contracts yet. You could exchange the blockchain part with any component that allows people to comment. For example Twitter.
- Pungsnigel 6y ago
  Yes, you're correct, and yes, it's the same concept as Twitch plays Pokemon. Does there have to be an advantage? :) I thought it was a fun project, and a fun way of playing around with and learning about Cardano. It's basically not a project to convince people that blockchains are cool it's a project for people who already think so. If that makes sense? I'm hoping to do more interactive (and cheaper) stuff once smart contracts are live. Would love to build something with chess at that point.

22 points by Pungsnigel 6y ago

This is a super neat idea. Hopefully Nintendo's lawyers don't show up to the party and pour out everyone's drinks.

Don't know how many here have an interest in Cardano, but hopefully at least a few. Spent a few weekends building this, where we hook a gameboy emulator to the Cardano blockchain. Main idea is to allow for a community playthrough. Had there not been random elements in the game, you'd be able to re-play the entire playthrough locally by just applying the same rules we've done.

yao420 6y ago

This is awesome, I’ll try it this weekend.

Pungsnigel 6y ago
Cool! I’d love any feedback you have!

throw4738 6y ago

》To make a move you need to send $1 to this address. This is very expensive and not very scalable.

Pungsnigel 6y ago
1 ADA is the lowest amount on the Cardano chain. I'd prefer it to be much lower for this game. I'm releasing an update soon where you'll be able to make multiple moves with one transaction (still 1 ADA), but that's the only way I've found to lower the cost of playing.
- Tenoke 6y ago
  What? You can send 0.01 ADA or less, can't you? + maybe .12 for gas.
  - Pungsnigel 6y ago
    Nope, lowest amount is 1 ADA, transaction fees are usually around 0.17. I'd expect this to be lowered in the future. 1 ADA wasn't much until a few months ago really.
- throw4738 6y ago
  Make it sidechain. And find some use case, turn based game is lame on blockchain. Maybe tournament with multiple parties and validation of winners.
  - PretzelPirate 6y ago
    This seems to be a Cardano staking company who are trying to market themselves. I doubt they’d want to go with a sidechain since their entire business is to have people stake in the main chain. They could go with a layer 2 network, but Cardano hasn’t implemented smart contracts or their Hydra state channels system yet.
tluyben2 6y ago
It's not, but on the other hand; not sure if Cardano fans are like eth/btc people; the 'non investor' fans of the latter that I know (some with millions $ in them, some with a more modest amounts) or read about online have no 'feeling' for the relation with the $. For them spending $100 in eth/btc is not the same as spending actual $100. I helped some friends add crypto payments for their services/products (because of covid) and they all say that crypto people/fans are far easier to deal with; they don't care about fees/rate, they round up and they don't ask for refunds under $100.

moonbug 6y ago

fuck off with your fucking Blockchain bollocks.

CynicusRex 6y ago
I wholeheartedly share this sentiment. The blockchain scene is one big marketing and advertising cesspool. Completely devoid of soul.
- dang 5y ago
  Would you please stop posting in the flamewar style to HN? You've been doing it repeatedly and it's not what this site is for. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.
dang 5y ago
Breaking the site guidelines like this will get you banned on HN, regardless of how you feel about Blockchain or anything else. Please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and don't post like this again. Edit: you've mostly been posting unsubstantive and/or flamebait comments. Can you please not do this? It's exactly the opposite of the kind of discussion we're trying for here. It isn't only that comments like these burn community health points—the greater issue is the example they set for others. It's all too easy for an internet forum to spiral into decay, and we're trying to stave that off if possible. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=stave%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so...

bhaak 6y ago

If I understand it correctly, you play by putting your moves on the blockchain here. That’s the play by Twitch Chat concept ported to a blockchain? What advantage does this have besides the moves being recorded on the blockchain? It’s more expensive and it’s slower (Cardano has 20 seconds block time IIRC). Nothing is running ON the blockchain. Cardano doesn’t have smart contracts yet. You could exchange the blockchain part with any component that allows people to comment. For example Twitter.

Pungsnigel 6y ago
Yes, you're correct, and yes, it's the same concept as Twitch plays Pokemon. Does there have to be an advantage? :) I thought it was a fun project, and a fun way of playing around with and learning about Cardano. It's basically not a project to convince people that blockchains are cool it's a project for people who already think so. If that makes sense? I'm hoping to do more interactive (and cheaper) stuff once smart contracts are live. Would love to build something with chess at that point.