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It amazes me that a consensus seems to have formed around this conclusion that Firefox is technically inferior. I have always been using it and it has always be

by tomc1985 6y ago

It amazes me that a consensus seems to have formed around this conclusion that Firefox is technically inferior. I have always been using it and it has always been a fantastic browser relatively free of Google's icy tendrils. The technical issues that people bring up about it are usually nonexistent for me, and while I am troubled at its direction it remains an unusually solid and reliable workhorse given the stakes involved and the size of its userbase

Enginerrrd 6y ago
On a PC I don't have any issues with firefox. On mobile I do. I also am still pissed that they killed almost all the extensions for firefox on mobile.
kaba0 6y ago
Well, in js performance it is unfortunately behind in some benchmarks as far as I know. And some major non-standard website refuses to run under firefox, like teams unfortunately (definitely the fault of Microsoft) So I am an FF user by ideology, but sometimes do use Chromium (basically only to not have to run electron).
- kiwijamo 6y ago
  I am certain that I've used Teams in Firefox? I regularly use other 365 webapps as well with no problems (apart from troubles that are also present in every other browsers).
  - kaba0 6y ago
    I think joining a meeting itself is what doesn’t work (for me at least) under linux. I can log in and use other features.
    - kiwijamo 6y ago
      Ah I see. My employer uses teams quite heavily for its other features but we use Zoom for meetings.
- f1refly 6y ago
  Being "behind in some benchmarks" is not an argument at all. You're implying that 1. Those test convey any useful information leading to 2. The average user is able to notice the difference in the real world I think that things that are not js execution time for actual site functionality are much worse for the overall web experience, namely js execution time for ads/trackers and overall latency caused by bad connection quality or bandwidth. The overall experience on firefox with ublock is en par with chrome with ublock for your average mom.
  - kaba0 6y ago
    You don’t have to convince me of Firefox being all around better, but I think it is important to note the areas where it could improve.

Enginerrrd 6y ago

On a PC I don't have any issues with firefox. On mobile I do. I also am still pissed that they killed almost all the extensions for firefox on mobile.

kaba0 6y ago

Well, in js performance it is unfortunately behind in some benchmarks as far as I know. And some major non-standard website refuses to run under firefox, like teams unfortunately (definitely the fault of Microsoft) So I am an FF user by ideology, but sometimes do use Chromium (basically only to not have to run electron).

kiwijamo 6y ago
I am certain that I've used Teams in Firefox? I regularly use other 365 webapps as well with no problems (apart from troubles that are also present in every other browsers).
- kaba0 6y ago
  I think joining a meeting itself is what doesn’t work (for me at least) under linux. I can log in and use other features.
  - kiwijamo 6y ago
    Ah I see. My employer uses teams quite heavily for its other features but we use Zoom for meetings.
f1refly 6y ago
Being "behind in some benchmarks" is not an argument at all. You're implying that 1. Those test convey any useful information leading to 2. The average user is able to notice the difference in the real world I think that things that are not js execution time for actual site functionality are much worse for the overall web experience, namely js execution time for ads/trackers and overall latency caused by bad connection quality or bandwidth. The overall experience on firefox with ublock is en par with chrome with ublock for your average mom.
- kaba0 6y ago
  You don’t have to convince me of Firefox being all around better, but I think it is important to note the areas where it could improve.