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Again that missed the point entirely. It certainly wasn't lying. We know and knew that some masks are effective. n95 masks when worn correctly are definitely sa

Again that missed the point entirely. It certainly wasn't lying. We know and knew that some masks are effective. n95 masks when worn correctly are definitely safer than not having one full stop. we didn't know then which masks were also going to be effective and didn't know if those masks would be worse than not wearing one at all. there was also the issue of shortages of the effective masks for medical pros that needed them. that informed the speaking at the time and at no point was that a lie. and we do have studies now that masks do decrease the likelihood of transmission so we do know now that those cloth masks are effective. 1. shortage of proper n95 masks(look at toilet paper during the beginning) 2. no evidence of other masks being useful or not harmful at the time so they said socially distance yourself as a primary mode of protection and wash your hands often.

orangecat 6y ago
It certainly wasn't lying. It certainly was: https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/29/health/face-masks-coronavirus-surgeon-general-trnd/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/29/health/face-masks-coronavirus.... That's not a statement that mask effectiveness is uncertain, it's an authoritative statement that they don't help.
- weaksauce 6y ago
  one political appointee from an administration that handled it about the worst as it could saying that(which also doesn't say what you think it says) doesn't change the facts of it... the overwhelming messaging at the time was how i noted it and wasn't a lie.
  - eloff 6y ago
    The fact that they ask on one hand not to buy PPE because there is a shortage for medical workers while on the other hand saying they're actually counter productive against covid19 is at least circumstantial evidence for the claim. It would be difficult to prove they definitely lied without an admission of guilt or leaked internal communications.
    - leetcrew 6y ago
      it's not a conspiracy theory. fauci admitted as much in this interview: https://www.thestreet.com/video/dr-fauci-masks-changing-directive-coronavirus https://www.thestreet.com/video/dr-fauci-masks-changing-dire...
      - eloff 6y ago
        Thank you. I thought I remembered they admitted it, but I didn't trust my memory. Case closed.

orangecat 6y ago

It certainly wasn't lying. It certainly was: https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/29/health/face-masks-coronavirus-surgeon-general-trnd/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/29/health/face-masks-coronavirus.... That's not a statement that mask effectiveness is uncertain, it's an authoritative statement that they don't help.

weaksauce 6y ago
one political appointee from an administration that handled it about the worst as it could saying that(which also doesn't say what you think it says) doesn't change the facts of it... the overwhelming messaging at the time was how i noted it and wasn't a lie.
- eloff 6y ago
  The fact that they ask on one hand not to buy PPE because there is a shortage for medical workers while on the other hand saying they're actually counter productive against covid19 is at least circumstantial evidence for the claim. It would be difficult to prove they definitely lied without an admission of guilt or leaked internal communications.
  - leetcrew 6y ago
    it's not a conspiracy theory. fauci admitted as much in this interview: https://www.thestreet.com/video/dr-fauci-masks-changing-directive-coronavirus https://www.thestreet.com/video/dr-fauci-masks-changing-dire...
    - eloff 6y ago
      Thank you. I thought I remembered they admitted it, but I didn't trust my memory. Case closed.