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> mostly breaking a billion useful things that X has had for some time This is always the case when there is some widely used legacy tech, but it shouldn't st

> mostly breaking a billion useful things that X has had for some time This is always the case when there is some widely used legacy tech, but it shouldn't stop us from trying to move forward, or we'll never get better things. I've personally switched to using wayland on my main laptop and am very happy with it. I was using X before and was getting incredibly bad screen tearing when using i3, I tried every recommendation I could find (double buffering, running a compositor, etc) and nothing helped, but Sway on wayland fixed it for me and its been running flawlessly for the last 9 months. I have no plans of going back to X anytime. The only thing I use X for is playing Windows games with Proton (which this HW acceleration change might even fix, if the laptop had an nvidia gpu, but alas, it does not).

sprash 6y ago
> but it shouldn't stop us from trying to move forward, Wayland means moving backwards. It has the complete wrong philosophy and abstractions. If "sway" runs flawlessly for you you are not doing much with your computer at all. I can't work without my fine tuned synaptics driver configuration and without my over the years grown and perfected scripts using xdotool, dmenu, xsel, xcape, xcalib and many other tiny but useful x-tools.
- dkersten 6y ago
  So because it doesn't work for your workflow of scripts that rely on X, wayland is a step backwards and I must not be using my computer for much? Get over yourself. > fine tuned synaptics driver configuration My touchpad, touchscreen and apple magic trackpad work great for me, so this isn't a problem for me.
  - sprash 6y ago
    Wayland is power-user hostile. If all you do is watching cat videos all day long Wayland will be great for you.
    - dkersten 6y ago
      And once again you are making completely erroneous assumptions about my computer use.
    - kaba0 6y ago
      Well, it actually do allows watching videos at all without tearing everywhere, which was not possible on X without a compositor.
      - anoncake 6y ago
        It is obviously not possible on Wayland without a compositor either?
        kaba0 6y ago
        I rather run a single compositor, than run X that works as a fancy IPC doing nothing interesting and a compositor on top. Also, it is needlessly chatty as well.

sprash 6y ago

> but it shouldn't stop us from trying to move forward, Wayland means moving backwards. It has the complete wrong philosophy and abstractions. If "sway" runs flawlessly for you you are not doing much with your computer at all. I can't work without my fine tuned synaptics driver configuration and without my over the years grown and perfected scripts using xdotool, dmenu, xsel, xcape, xcalib and many other tiny but useful x-tools.

dkersten 6y ago
So because it doesn't work for your workflow of scripts that rely on X, wayland is a step backwards and I must not be using my computer for much? Get over yourself. > fine tuned synaptics driver configuration My touchpad, touchscreen and apple magic trackpad work great for me, so this isn't a problem for me.
- sprash 6y ago
  Wayland is power-user hostile. If all you do is watching cat videos all day long Wayland will be great for you.
  - dkersten 6y ago
    And once again you are making completely erroneous assumptions about my computer use.
  - kaba0 6y ago
    Well, it actually do allows watching videos at all without tearing everywhere, which was not possible on X without a compositor.
    - anoncake 6y ago
      It is obviously not possible on Wayland without a compositor either?
      - kaba0 6y ago
        I rather run a single compositor, than run X that works as a fancy IPC doing nothing interesting and a compositor on top. Also, it is needlessly chatty as well.