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Oh my god! I can't believe Apple would make the entirety rational decision to not make iMessage for Android because there's no good reason for them to do so.

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wpietri 6y ago
There are plenty of good reasons. If your point is they're only going to listen to the reasons that involve them making more money, I'm sure you're right. But at some point that becomes anticompetitive behavior.
- meepmorp 6y ago
  No, there aren't any good reasons. If you want iMessage, get an iPhone. Similarly, if you want to sideload apps, get an Android. You're not entitled to everything you want because you want it.
  - wpietri 6y ago
    Oh? If you're so confident, surely you can demonstrate that there are zero good reasons. I'll wait.
    - meepmorp 6y ago
      Here I enumerate the set of reasons that Apple would make and maintain an iMessage client for Android, G, such that for every reason r in G, r is a good reason: G = {} The cardinality of the set G is zero, QED.
      - wpietri 6y ago
        I guess if you're not going to take your point seriously, there's no particular need for me to. But maybe save your limp comedy for Reddit next time.
        meepmorp 6y ago
        You're the one asking me to prove a negative. Your should be able to cripple my argument trivially with a counter example, which you've avoided doing, twice now.
        wpietri 6y ago
        You're the one claiming a negative is 100% true, without giving any indication you've thought through the topic. In my experience, there's no point in trying to do the work for lazy thinkers. I'll tell you what. You list some good reasons businesses typically do things and say why they aren't valid for this. If you really can't come up with any after some demonstrated work, I'm glad to help you out.
- motoxpro 6y ago
  I mean, isn't the whole point of business to make money? I can't watch Netflix exclusives on Hulu because Netflix wants to make money and having unique offerings is one way to do that.
  - wpietri 6y ago
    No. That is not in fact the point of business. It's a necessary condition that businesses cover their expenses and maybe make a little profit. But making money is no more the point of business than eating food is the point of life.
    - motoxpro 6y ago
      "It's a necessary condition that businesses cover their expenses and maybe make a little profit." aka make money. I think your analogy is right on. If I don't eat then I don't live. If I don't make money, my business dies. It's not easy to keep a business alive, hence why most of the businesses from 60+ years ago are dead. I need a sustainable way to keep "food" coming in the door so I make exclusive things and provide value to people who use my product. I don't see why every single business should be a charity.
      - wpietri 6y ago
        Nobody is saying every business should be a charity. I am saying, though, there's more to life than eating food. People who treat that as the "whole point" are missing out.

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wpietri 6y ago

There are plenty of good reasons. If your point is they're only going to listen to the reasons that involve them making more money, I'm sure you're right. But at some point that becomes anticompetitive behavior.

meepmorp 6y ago
No, there aren't any good reasons. If you want iMessage, get an iPhone. Similarly, if you want to sideload apps, get an Android. You're not entitled to everything you want because you want it.
- wpietri 6y ago
  Oh? If you're so confident, surely you can demonstrate that there are zero good reasons. I'll wait.
  - meepmorp 6y ago
    Here I enumerate the set of reasons that Apple would make and maintain an iMessage client for Android, G, such that for every reason r in G, r is a good reason: G = {} The cardinality of the set G is zero, QED.
    - wpietri 6y ago
      I guess if you're not going to take your point seriously, there's no particular need for me to. But maybe save your limp comedy for Reddit next time.
      - meepmorp 6y ago
        You're the one asking me to prove a negative. Your should be able to cripple my argument trivially with a counter example, which you've avoided doing, twice now.
        wpietri 6y ago
        You're the one claiming a negative is 100% true, without giving any indication you've thought through the topic. In my experience, there's no point in trying to do the work for lazy thinkers. I'll tell you what. You list some good reasons businesses typically do things and say why they aren't valid for this. If you really can't come up with any after some demonstrated work, I'm glad to help you out.
motoxpro 6y ago
I mean, isn't the whole point of business to make money? I can't watch Netflix exclusives on Hulu because Netflix wants to make money and having unique offerings is one way to do that.
- wpietri 6y ago
  No. That is not in fact the point of business. It's a necessary condition that businesses cover their expenses and maybe make a little profit. But making money is no more the point of business than eating food is the point of life.
  - motoxpro 6y ago
    "It's a necessary condition that businesses cover their expenses and maybe make a little profit." aka make money. I think your analogy is right on. If I don't eat then I don't live. If I don't make money, my business dies. It's not easy to keep a business alive, hence why most of the businesses from 60+ years ago are dead. I need a sustainable way to keep "food" coming in the door so I make exclusive things and provide value to people who use my product. I don't see why every single business should be a charity.
    - wpietri 6y ago
      Nobody is saying every business should be a charity. I am saying, though, there's more to life than eating food. People who treat that as the "whole point" are missing out.