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U.S. Government Wants to Double Prison Sentences for Hackers
- losethos 15y agoIf were carrying-on a conversation in the media and you post this story, you are calling me a hacker. I am not a hacker. Fuck You. You're in some serious shit cauase I got God right here mother fuckers. God says... presbyters planets perfectly attributed remnants session bark brother groaneth If presides frailness whatever kindness limed quit mourn suffer army requitest ordinance shameless powerful
- dolvlo 15y agoWhy not just sentence everyone to death for any crime, no matter how small?
- marshray 15y agoHow could you suggest such a horrible thing? Just think of all the prison guards that would put out of work!
- pyre 15y agoThey could just transition to be ushers for the public executions events.
- falcolas 15y agoBe sure not to step on the bushes when getting your football...
- epochwolf 15y agoI seem to recall a star trek episode about that... [edit] Yup: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justice_(Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justice_(Star_Trek:_The_Next_Ge...
- AndyKelley 15y agobecause then everyone would be sentenced to death, and that is ridiculous.
- marshray 15y agoKind of like the ridiculous percentage of the US population currently in prison.
- StavrosK 15y agoHey, it's free labour.
- politician 15y agoAnd if they're hackers, then well, they're skilled free labor.
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- bugsy 15y agoI can tell you what happens if you call the FBI to report your site being hacked by criminal syndicates. Nothing. The FBI has no interest at all in investigating these crimes. Unless apparently it is from a group criticizing the government. As we see in the article, that's the real crime. Not hacking a site, but the motivation. If it's to steal and commit financial fraud, the government couldn't care less. But if it's because you want to out lies and crimes told by government, then you are going to prison for a long time. Make no mistake. This is not about the hacking itself at all.
- getsat 15y agoThere was an article a few months ago that showed the FBI spends most of its resources going after copyright infringers. Maybe you could claim some of your intellectual property was stolen next time?
- nextparadigms 15y agoReally? So there's Homeland Security going after copyright infringement, now FBI. What's next? CIA? I've seen that in Europe they are already starting to use the Interpol for such things. When did copyright infringement become one of the biggest crimes one could do? It certainly seems to be on the Government's top priority list, not far below terrorism.
- shareme 15y agoBecause its easy to track and prosecute... hacker breakins, difficult to track and prosecute hence FBI pretending to do there jobs by taking the low hanging fruit..
- pavel_lishin 15y agoNot to mention, it's typically corporations with big pockets pushing for these sorts of investigations.
- tptacek 15y ago
- marshray 15y agoThere are some famous instances of hackers being locked up, e.g., Kevin Mitnick. But are there any examples of hackers not being locked up long enough? Someone who gets out after 10 years but hadn't learned their lesson and really needed 20?
- politician 15y agoUnfortunately, the problem with your question is that it assumes that the purpose of prison is rehabilitation.
- calebmpeterson 15y agoAs an honest and simple question: what are the possible purposes of incarceration?
- russell_h 15y agoA few come to mind (and I'm not saying I approve/disapprove of any of these): 1. Rehabilitation 2. Isolation (get them off the streets) 3. Revenge 4. Deterrence Edit: is there a way to format a list on HN?
- JoachimSchipper 15y ago- Try - bullets + and * paragraphs (two newlines between each line).
- getsat 15y agoThe prison system in the US is a multi-billion dollar industry. More prisoners = more prisons = more jobs (guards, cleaning staff, psychologists, etc.).
- pyre 15y agoIt's also there as a 'scoreboard' for politicians who want to claim to be tough on crime.
- smogzer 15y agoFirst there were witches, then there were terrorists then there were the hackers. But as every child says those who accuse are the ones who really are.
- Joakal 15y agoYou sound like you were born in the 90s. It was believed that communists were the bogeyman for a while.
- austinc 15y agoDid anyone else read the headline as "US Government Wants Double Precision Sentences for Hackers"?
- nhebb 15y agoif (prisoner.IncarcerationPeriodF == prison().SentenceF) prisoner.Release(); Floating point rounding errors could doom someone to a life sentence!
- rdtsc 15y agoI see a real danger of people using false flag attacks to get those they don't like in serious trouble. They can for example use victim's computer to scan and DoS .mil domains and download a random sampling of copyrighted material from various torrents.
- Joakal 15y agoThe danger is real. Also don't forget to download some child pornography [0]! [0] http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2011-04-25-wifi-warning.htm http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2011-04-25-wifi-warning.ht...
- orangecat 15y agoThis goes well with the government's position that violating your employer's acceptable use policy or a website's usage terms constitutes "hacking": http://volokh.com/2011/06/14/petition-for-rehearing-filed-in-united-states-v-nosal-ninth-circuit-case-on-criminalizing-violations-of-computer-use-policies/ http://volokh.com/2011/06/14/petition-for-rehearing-filed-in...