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Can someone leave their politics at home if they work for Raytheon? If someone's life can be segmented so strictly in that way, it's a good sign that they're li

Can someone leave their politics at home if they work for Raytheon? If someone's life can be segmented so strictly in that way, it's a good sign that they're likely very privileged and insulated from any real political actions. Despite paranoid cries to the contrary, nobody is taking privileges away from white men.

slackfan 6y ago
Two points. 1. If you think this only relevant to white men - you are an incredibly privileged racist. 2. Yes, you can leave your politics at home if you work for Raytheon. Because if you work for Raytheon - you by default need to subscribe to a certain macro-view of the world, which has little to no bearing on your individual politics. Working at Raytheon is not a requirement for anybody.
- minikites 6y ago
  1. They're the only ones complaining about "activism". Everyone else benefits from that activism, which is why white men are so threatened. When you're used to being superior, equality looks like a threat. 2. You're right that nobody is required to work for Raytheon, but that's kind of my point. Someone who voluntarily works for Raytheon is at the very least not bothered by their actions, which does reflect on their politics. You merely assert that it somehow doesn't, with no reasoning behind it. Someone working for Greenpeace (for example) shows exactly the same thing on the opposite side of the political spectrum and illustrates my point that you can't really leave your politics at home. There are no apolitical companies or organizations.
  - slackfan 6y ago
    1. As a minority working in tech - we're tired of this trope, and wish you white folks pushing your fake woke diversity bullshit would stop. But you know, who's gonna listen to us, you know better than us, don't you. Maybe you should go outside your comfort zone and listen, oh great white savior. 2. Not every company is Raytheon or Greenpeace is my point.
    - minikites 6y ago
      1. I could certainly do a better job of framing my arguments to avoid doing that. What gives you the ability to speak on behalf of entire groups? 2. Sure, but my point is those are the ends of the scale and every company or organization is somewhere on the scale. Your argument (as I understand it) is that you can keep personal politics separate from where you work, a political entity which interacts with all levels of politics. Small companies have an incredible impact on local governments. I don't think you can keep those things separate if you have meaningful choice about where you work (most tech workers and tech jobs). There are lots of jobs where that is not true. I'm not talking about the politics of the cleaning staff at Raytheon or Greenpeace, for example.
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slackfan 6y ago

Two points. 1. If you think this only relevant to white men - you are an incredibly privileged racist. 2. Yes, you can leave your politics at home if you work for Raytheon. Because if you work for Raytheon - you by default need to subscribe to a certain macro-view of the world, which has little to no bearing on your individual politics. Working at Raytheon is not a requirement for anybody.

minikites 6y ago
1. They're the only ones complaining about "activism". Everyone else benefits from that activism, which is why white men are so threatened. When you're used to being superior, equality looks like a threat. 2. You're right that nobody is required to work for Raytheon, but that's kind of my point. Someone who voluntarily works for Raytheon is at the very least not bothered by their actions, which does reflect on their politics. You merely assert that it somehow doesn't, with no reasoning behind it. Someone working for Greenpeace (for example) shows exactly the same thing on the opposite side of the political spectrum and illustrates my point that you can't really leave your politics at home. There are no apolitical companies or organizations.
- slackfan 6y ago
  1. As a minority working in tech - we're tired of this trope, and wish you white folks pushing your fake woke diversity bullshit would stop. But you know, who's gonna listen to us, you know better than us, don't you. Maybe you should go outside your comfort zone and listen, oh great white savior. 2. Not every company is Raytheon or Greenpeace is my point.
  - minikites 6y ago
    1. I could certainly do a better job of framing my arguments to avoid doing that. What gives you the ability to speak on behalf of entire groups? 2. Sure, but my point is those are the ends of the scale and every company or organization is somewhere on the scale. Your argument (as I understand it) is that you can keep personal politics separate from where you work, a political entity which interacts with all levels of politics. Small companies have an incredible impact on local governments. I don't think you can keep those things separate if you have meaningful choice about where you work (most tech workers and tech jobs). There are lots of jobs where that is not true. I'm not talking about the politics of the cleaning staff at Raytheon or Greenpeace, for example.
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