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Go on... Food? Health care? Transportation?

DC1350 6y ago
Food and housing is extremely cheap in America. Americans have an extremely low cost of living and low taxes compared to every other wealthy country. Also higher wages for similar jobs.
- astrange 6y ago
  One reason everyone thinks it's bad is journalists are 1. naturally neurotic people 2. all have student debt 3. all live in expensive cities like NYC and 4. their industry has fewer people earning less than they did 10 years ago. Similar for some other activist classes, though not all.
  - astrange 6y ago
    > their industry has fewer people earning less than they did 10 years ago has fewer people and they earn less, not fewer people who earn less.
musingsole 6y ago
If you have a counterpoint, make it. I'll try for you: the cohesive view of cost of living would show these rubes to be peasants to the unskilled European's millionaire. Interesting point, where's your data?
- specialist 6y ago
  > Interesting point, where's your data? Exactly. Why would u/flavorous make a drive-by comment and not cite any data? I expected something like this, for international comparisons: https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/cost-of-living-index-by-state https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/cost-of-liv...
  - musingsole 6y ago
    rayiner did give a data point. Just not a source. And that's because they were indulging you. That link and your refrains about data are signs of flailing due to lack of rhetorical content. Your argument is Europe good; US bad.
whimsicalism 6y ago
The COL in Bessemer is going to be less than in Western Europe. Do you live in America? You're right that healthcare could be more expensive, but there is also employer-covered health insurance.
- rayiner 6y ago
  Healthcare is likely less expensive at that income level. An ACA silver plan in Alabama for a single person making $30,000/year is expected to cost $85/month with subsidies: https://www.kff.org/interactive/subsidy-calculator/ https://www.kff.org/interactive/subsidy-calculator/ That’s 3.4% of income, lower than the typical health insurance tax in European counties.
rayiner 6y ago
Food in America is cheap. Transportation is pretty cheap because gas is cheap and old Japanese cars are low maintenance. At $15/hour healthcare is cheap because everywhere in the US has subsidized healthcare through the ACA.

Food and housing is extremely cheap in America. Americans have an extremely low cost of living and low taxes compared to every other wealthy country. Also higher wages for similar jobs.

astrange 6y ago
One reason everyone thinks it's bad is journalists are 1. naturally neurotic people 2. all have student debt 3. all live in expensive cities like NYC and 4. their industry has fewer people earning less than they did 10 years ago. Similar for some other activist classes, though not all.
- astrange 6y ago
  > their industry has fewer people earning less than they did 10 years ago has fewer people and they earn less, not fewer people who earn less.

musingsole 6y ago

If you have a counterpoint, make it. I'll try for you: the cohesive view of cost of living would show these rubes to be peasants to the unskilled European's millionaire. Interesting point, where's your data?

specialist 6y ago
> Interesting point, where's your data? Exactly. Why would u/flavorous make a drive-by comment and not cite any data? I expected something like this, for international comparisons: https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/cost-of-living-index-by-state https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/cost-of-liv...
- musingsole 6y ago
  rayiner did give a data point. Just not a source. And that's because they were indulging you. That link and your refrains about data are signs of flailing due to lack of rhetorical content. Your argument is Europe good; US bad.

whimsicalism 6y ago

The COL in Bessemer is going to be less than in Western Europe. Do you live in America? You're right that healthcare could be more expensive, but there is also employer-covered health insurance.

rayiner 6y ago
Healthcare is likely less expensive at that income level. An ACA silver plan in Alabama for a single person making $30,000/year is expected to cost $85/month with subsidies: https://www.kff.org/interactive/subsidy-calculator/ https://www.kff.org/interactive/subsidy-calculator/ That’s 3.4% of income, lower than the typical health insurance tax in European counties.

rayiner 6y ago

Food in America is cheap. Transportation is pretty cheap because gas is cheap and old Japanese cars are low maintenance. At $15/hour healthcare is cheap because everywhere in the US has subsidized healthcare through the ACA.