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Personally I think that universal health care is undesirable for ethical reasons. How are we supposed to evolve if we don't let our species' least capable membe

by hugh3 15y ago

Personally I think that universal health care is undesirable for ethical reasons. How are we supposed to evolve if we don't let our species' least capable members get weeded out by natural selection? There's nothing "ethical" about allowing folks who can't pay for their own health care to get it at someone else's expense.

BasDirks 15y ago
Personally I think that universal health care is undesirable for ethical reasons. How are we supposed to evolve if we don't let our species' least capable members get weeded out by natural selection? I'm a big Nietzsche fan, but that my friend, is fucking disgusting.
r0s 15y ago
I happen to believe half-formed theories about evolution justify expulsion from social benefits like healthcare. This intellectual weakness desperately needs to be purged, to allow the superior ideology of compassion to thrive.
ry0ohki 15y ago
So presumably you don't take antibiotics, insulin, an inhaler, use any reproductive aids etc... for the same logic?
- burgerbrain 15y ago
  Not that I necessarily agree with this but...: If an individual has otherwise flourished in a society to the point where they can afford to have other members of a society provide them those services, then they are (despite medical appearances) apparently fairly well adapted. The issues arise when they are not using their money to give themselves these advantages. (Perhaps it is inherited money, or perhaps it is provided by the society itself).
tdfx 15y ago
You're equating the value of a person with their ability to game our society's system of making money. By your logic, we should be rushing to ensure that lottery winners in trailer parks are provided the best medical care while starving PhD students are left to die. Natural selection is has done great things for life on our planet but it doesn't apply here.

by hugh3 15y ago

BasDirks 15y ago

Personally I think that universal health care is undesirable for ethical reasons. How are we supposed to evolve if we don't let our species' least capable members get weeded out by natural selection? I'm a big Nietzsche fan, but that my friend, is fucking disgusting.

r0s 15y ago

I happen to believe half-formed theories about evolution justify expulsion from social benefits like healthcare. This intellectual weakness desperately needs to be purged, to allow the superior ideology of compassion to thrive.

ry0ohki 15y ago

So presumably you don't take antibiotics, insulin, an inhaler, use any reproductive aids etc... for the same logic?

burgerbrain 15y ago
Not that I necessarily agree with this but...: If an individual has otherwise flourished in a society to the point where they can afford to have other members of a society provide them those services, then they are (despite medical appearances) apparently fairly well adapted. The issues arise when they are not using their money to give themselves these advantages. (Perhaps it is inherited money, or perhaps it is provided by the society itself).

tdfx 15y ago

You're equating the value of a person with their ability to game our society's system of making money. By your logic, we should be rushing to ensure that lottery winners in trailer parks are provided the best medical care while starving PhD students are left to die. Natural selection is has done great things for life on our planet but it doesn't apply here.