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If we thought of cameras as human eyes and microphones as human ears then maybe we wouldn't be as comfortable with internet-enabled doorbell cams, or internet-e

If we thought of cameras as human eyes and microphones as human ears then maybe we wouldn't be as comfortable with internet-enabled doorbell cams, or internet-enabled smart speakers in our homes, always watching, always listening.

grawprog 5y ago
Hmmmm so maybe one of these to go with the eye camera? https://3diosound.com/products/free-space-binaural-microphone https://3diosound.com/products/free-space-binaural-microphon...
- fileeditview 5y ago
  This image gives me some kind of knee-jerk reaction: https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0995/9804/products/3Dio_FS_Outdoors_Behind_InHand_Accessories_2400x1600_WebReady_1024x1024.jpg?v=1562377994 https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0995/9804/products/3Dio_FS... It somehow says: how to dull your senses and use a gimmick to replace them. Note: this product may be of use.. this is just my reflex on seeing this.
  - tomjakubowski 5y ago
    I think that guy is supposed to be recording binaural audio with the microphone and monitoring the levels with the headphones. Not using the mic to replace his senses.
  - grawprog 5y ago
    The other commenter is likely right. My other comment was mostly a joke. Those mics are for recording binaural audio. Each ear has a directional mic that's positioned approximately the same distance as human ears apart. Audio recorded using them will give a sense of 3d space that's supposed to mimic sound as heard by our ears when listened to in stereo. I think they're mostly used for recording ASMR or VR content? Though, I've always wondered if they might give a more live kind of sound if used to record acoustic music or something.
megous 5y ago
I'd like to share your optimism.
rektide 5y ago
Not exactly human eyes, but putting googley eyes on robots[1][2] seems to have become one of the primary strategy to make scary machine robots feel more anthropomoric & non-hostile. [1] https://www.adweek.com/performance-marketing/giant-grocery-stores-is-deploying-googly-eyed-robots-to-improve-the-customer-experience/ https://www.adweek.com/performance-marketing/giant-grocery-s... [2] https://www.fastcompany.com/90395110/how-googly-eyes-solved-one-of-todays-trickiest-ux-problems https://www.fastcompany.com/90395110/how-googly-eyes-solved-...
falcor84 5y ago
Would you mind expanding on your thinking regarding the doorbell? Wouldn't that just be the same as hiring a doorman to stand outside? I don't find that thought particularly troubling.
- oliwarner 5y ago
  I guess it depends where you live. If you live in a quiet little cul-de-sac, where nothing ever happens, having somebody stand on your site reporting on your neighbours' movements might seem —to your neighbours— slightly invasive.
  - falcor84 5y ago
    I'm not sure about other doorbell cameras, but the basic* Ring camera should only trigger the video recording on proximity detection, so that's like a very near-sighted doorman, who only notices the very nosy neighbors. *I understand that some more expensive versions do take continuous low-energy recordings, and I do find that somewhat disturbing.
    - oliwarner 5y ago
      The part that particularly bothers me is the IoT nature of them. Even if they rely on proximity for automated events, you can manually watch and record at any time. And no, that's not the same as looking out the window, because the S in IoT stands for security. As a neighbour to a fleet of crappy IoT cameras, I have no idea who's watching what I do I and around my house.
smusamashah 5y ago
https://marcteyssier.com/projects/skin-on/ https://marcteyssier.com/projects/skin-on/

grawprog 5y ago

Hmmmm so maybe one of these to go with the eye camera? https://3diosound.com/products/free-space-binaural-microphone https://3diosound.com/products/free-space-binaural-microphon...

fileeditview 5y ago
This image gives me some kind of knee-jerk reaction: https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0995/9804/products/3Dio_FS_Outdoors_Behind_InHand_Accessories_2400x1600_WebReady_1024x1024.jpg?v=1562377994 https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0995/9804/products/3Dio_FS... It somehow says: how to dull your senses and use a gimmick to replace them. Note: this product may be of use.. this is just my reflex on seeing this.
- tomjakubowski 5y ago
  I think that guy is supposed to be recording binaural audio with the microphone and monitoring the levels with the headphones. Not using the mic to replace his senses.
- grawprog 5y ago
  The other commenter is likely right. My other comment was mostly a joke. Those mics are for recording binaural audio. Each ear has a directional mic that's positioned approximately the same distance as human ears apart. Audio recorded using them will give a sense of 3d space that's supposed to mimic sound as heard by our ears when listened to in stereo. I think they're mostly used for recording ASMR or VR content? Though, I've always wondered if they might give a more live kind of sound if used to record acoustic music or something.

megous 5y ago

I'd like to share your optimism.

rektide 5y ago

Not exactly human eyes, but putting googley eyes on robots[1][2] seems to have become one of the primary strategy to make scary machine robots feel more anthropomoric & non-hostile. [1] https://www.adweek.com/performance-marketing/giant-grocery-stores-is-deploying-googly-eyed-robots-to-improve-the-customer-experience/ https://www.adweek.com/performance-marketing/giant-grocery-s... [2] https://www.fastcompany.com/90395110/how-googly-eyes-solved-one-of-todays-trickiest-ux-problems https://www.fastcompany.com/90395110/how-googly-eyes-solved-...

falcor84 5y ago

Would you mind expanding on your thinking regarding the doorbell? Wouldn't that just be the same as hiring a doorman to stand outside? I don't find that thought particularly troubling.

oliwarner 5y ago
I guess it depends where you live. If you live in a quiet little cul-de-sac, where nothing ever happens, having somebody stand on your site reporting on your neighbours' movements might seem —to your neighbours— slightly invasive.
- falcor84 5y ago
  I'm not sure about other doorbell cameras, but the basic* Ring camera should only trigger the video recording on proximity detection, so that's like a very near-sighted doorman, who only notices the very nosy neighbors. *I understand that some more expensive versions do take continuous low-energy recordings, and I do find that somewhat disturbing.
  - oliwarner 5y ago
    The part that particularly bothers me is the IoT nature of them. Even if they rely on proximity for automated events, you can manually watch and record at any time. And no, that's not the same as looking out the window, because the S in IoT stands for security. As a neighbour to a fleet of crappy IoT cameras, I have no idea who's watching what I do I and around my house.

smusamashah 5y ago

https://marcteyssier.com/projects/skin-on/ https://marcteyssier.com/projects/skin-on/