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Unfortunately people are very quick to assign "generational guilt" these days. It's as if we've gone backwards, and are no longer capable of being individuals.

Unfortunately people are very quick to assign "generational guilt" these days. It's as if we've gone backwards, and are no longer capable of being individuals. "Oh, you're white/black/related to x/decended from y, did you know your ancestors did *that*?"

kmlx 6y ago
because it’s much simpler for people to find external causes to their misery than looking at their own actions. nothing new, see “religion”.
- andrepd 6y ago
  Yes, history is a figment of our imagination, every person's misery is due to their own actions. /s
bojan 6y ago
They are quick to assign generational guilt because they still have to live with the consequences of what happened those generations ago.
shankr 6y ago
Because people take generation credit all the time. We "french/english/<insert any nationality>" did this and that. So if we are not trying to being hypocritical, it makes sense you share the associated guilt also. We haven't gone backwards, it's just we have become bit more consistent in our logic
andrepd 6y ago
Excuse me? Generational inheritance is the basis of the entire monarchy. It's how they justify their position and privileges. Invoke generational privileges when it suits them and cry about generational guilt when it does not??
- Accacin 6y ago
  But he's not just talking about the Royal Family. How far do I go back before I don't feel guilty anymore? Should the Italians feel guilty for the Roman Empire slaughtering native Britons? For me there's little point making people feel shame for what country they happened to be born in - we do not get to choose. However it's important that we do not forget what caused these awful atrocities and make sure that we never let them happen again. Personally I feel that we do not learn enough about these atrocities at school in the UK, and would be happy if we focused on them more but I wouldn't want people to feel too guilty about things that could not control.
  - TheCoelacanth 6y ago
    If you continue to directly benefit from the atrocities, then you should feel guilty.
  - andrepd 6y ago
    The GP comment was about the royal family.
lordvegazo 6y ago
It was Queen Victoria who gave patents to explore. They came and plundered our lands and created unrest first in the name of east india company and then the British Empire. We just dont know how the subcontinent would have evolved without their interference - because of their divide and conquer policy we have an extreme distrust between the muslims and the hindus that had resulted in one of the worst (and ridiculus) land partitions in 1947 and created a conflict that will go on for generations. They interfered where they had no business to be in and made a mess of everything. People argue that his hands are clean because all the bad stuff was done by his mother-in-law and the PMs. But he directly benifitted from the gains (as will his decendents) of the genoide and plunderings and won't even acknowledge. The monarch should pay the subcontinent back for the damages they have caused[0, 1]. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7CW7S0zxv4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7CW7S0zxv4 [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjTSgP6Lm0A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjTSgP6Lm0A
dragonelite 6y ago
As long as people from the global south suffer from Anglo European imperialism. Anglo Europeans should carry that generational guilt just as the global south has suffered for generations and still suffers to this day. Here's a interesting tweet about how the global north is sucking dry the global south: https://twitter.com/jasonhickel/status/1377180178690940934 https://twitter.com/jasonhickel/status/1377180178690940934

kmlx 6y ago

because it’s much simpler for people to find external causes to their misery than looking at their own actions. nothing new, see “religion”.

andrepd 6y ago
Yes, history is a figment of our imagination, every person's misery is due to their own actions. /s

bojan 6y ago

They are quick to assign generational guilt because they still have to live with the consequences of what happened those generations ago.

shankr 6y ago

Because people take generation credit all the time. We "french/english/<insert any nationality>" did this and that. So if we are not trying to being hypocritical, it makes sense you share the associated guilt also. We haven't gone backwards, it's just we have become bit more consistent in our logic

andrepd 6y ago

Excuse me? Generational inheritance is the basis of the entire monarchy. It's how they justify their position and privileges. Invoke generational privileges when it suits them and cry about generational guilt when it does not??

Accacin 6y ago
But he's not just talking about the Royal Family. How far do I go back before I don't feel guilty anymore? Should the Italians feel guilty for the Roman Empire slaughtering native Britons? For me there's little point making people feel shame for what country they happened to be born in - we do not get to choose. However it's important that we do not forget what caused these awful atrocities and make sure that we never let them happen again. Personally I feel that we do not learn enough about these atrocities at school in the UK, and would be happy if we focused on them more but I wouldn't want people to feel too guilty about things that could not control.
- TheCoelacanth 6y ago
  If you continue to directly benefit from the atrocities, then you should feel guilty.
- andrepd 6y ago
  The GP comment was about the royal family.

lordvegazo 6y ago

It was Queen Victoria who gave patents to explore. They came and plundered our lands and created unrest first in the name of east india company and then the British Empire. We just dont know how the subcontinent would have evolved without their interference - because of their divide and conquer policy we have an extreme distrust between the muslims and the hindus that had resulted in one of the worst (and ridiculus) land partitions in 1947 and created a conflict that will go on for generations. They interfered where they had no business to be in and made a mess of everything. People argue that his hands are clean because all the bad stuff was done by his mother-in-law and the PMs. But he directly benifitted from the gains (as will his decendents) of the genoide and plunderings and won't even acknowledge. The monarch should pay the subcontinent back for the damages they have caused[0, 1]. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7CW7S0zxv4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7CW7S0zxv4 [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjTSgP6Lm0A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjTSgP6Lm0A

dragonelite 6y ago

As long as people from the global south suffer from Anglo European imperialism. Anglo Europeans should carry that generational guilt just as the global south has suffered for generations and still suffers to this day. Here's a interesting tweet about how the global north is sucking dry the global south: https://twitter.com/jasonhickel/status/1377180178690940934 https://twitter.com/jasonhickel/status/1377180178690940934