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It should be noted that the 'staying out of politics' is a public phenomenon. In her weekly meeting with the Prime Minister, The Queen makes her political stanc

It should be noted that the 'staying out of politics' is a public phenomenon. In her weekly meeting with the Prime Minister, The Queen makes her political stance well known (that is the entire point of the meeting).

gadders 6y ago
She's worked with 14 prime ministers, starting with Winston Churchill and going downhill from there. She might know a thing or two.
- arethuza 6y ago
  She got on rather well with Harold Wilson.
- jen20 6y ago
  > going downhill from there While the office may have had consecutive local minima, one would be hard pushed to suggest Major, Blair or even Brown - were "downhill" from Callaghan.
  - gadders 6y ago
    No, but I was more suggesting that they are all downhill relative Churchill. I'm not implying it's a smooth slope.
bengale 6y ago
It feels like the better way to do it tbh. The PM gets the benefit of her experience without having the media use her words to beat him with if he choses a different direction.
- Balero 6y ago
  Or a better way for a very wealthy person with far more power and influence than the average person to, in secret, lobby the leader of the government. Frankly I would rather have this lobbying out in the open where it can be held accountable.
  - iso1631 6y ago
    Those secret lobbying meetings with rich and powerful people happen regardless. Compared with most lobbyists the Queen doesn't have power.
  - zepto 6y ago
    “A very wealthy person” is a weird way to reduce her to nothing. She is also the only person in the world who has the experience of a weekly conversation with the last 14 prime ministers of Britain. She is the embodiment of the state’s institutional memory.
  - bengale 6y ago
    She’s not just a very wealthy person, she’s our monarch. You can obviously argue the system could be different/better but it’s not, and there is no appetite here to change it. That being the case I think her keeping her political views between the PM and herself is the better way to do it.

gadders 6y ago

She's worked with 14 prime ministers, starting with Winston Churchill and going downhill from there. She might know a thing or two.

arethuza 6y ago
She got on rather well with Harold Wilson.
jen20 6y ago
> going downhill from there While the office may have had consecutive local minima, one would be hard pushed to suggest Major, Blair or even Brown - were "downhill" from Callaghan.
- gadders 6y ago
  No, but I was more suggesting that they are all downhill relative Churchill. I'm not implying it's a smooth slope.

bengale 6y ago

It feels like the better way to do it tbh. The PM gets the benefit of her experience without having the media use her words to beat him with if he choses a different direction.

Balero 6y ago
Or a better way for a very wealthy person with far more power and influence than the average person to, in secret, lobby the leader of the government. Frankly I would rather have this lobbying out in the open where it can be held accountable.
- iso1631 6y ago
  Those secret lobbying meetings with rich and powerful people happen regardless. Compared with most lobbyists the Queen doesn't have power.
- zepto 6y ago
  “A very wealthy person” is a weird way to reduce her to nothing. She is also the only person in the world who has the experience of a weekly conversation with the last 14 prime ministers of Britain. She is the embodiment of the state’s institutional memory.
- bengale 6y ago
  She’s not just a very wealthy person, she’s our monarch. You can obviously argue the system could be different/better but it’s not, and there is no appetite here to change it. That being the case I think her keeping her political views between the PM and herself is the better way to do it.