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and the sad thing is government subsidize animal industry heavily :(

shafyy 6y ago
Yes, meat and dairy are the new Big Oil. In fact, they spend a bigger relative portion of their income for lobyying than Big Oil: https://insideclimatenews.org/news/02042021/meat-dairy-lobby-climate-action/ https://insideclimatenews.org/news/02042021/meat-dairy-lobby...
- specialist 6y ago
  I just watched The Poison Squad. The tortured history of banning poisons from food, aka the progressive era Pure Food movement. Big Food pioneered lobbying, alongside all the other robber barons.
Shivetya 6y ago
government subsidizes everything to one level or another. to say it is subsidized higher than other sectors within agriculture is more meme than fact. some segments may be depending on your country. in the US we subsidize everything to include corn for ethanol to cotton which we ship to China and receive back as finished clothing. the issue has always been subsidies are politicians means to show their constituents they are doing their job, bringing home the bacon. however the rules and regulations are stacked such that only very large farms and organizations see real benefit. US wise, most subsidies are towards guarantees of rates. Dairy and Meat get picked on a lot because they are very noticeable but much of the numbers assigned to them are because corn is a feed product and the biggest crop in the US by far. Throw in that many who don't care for animal farming will then associate any other subsidy they can find, to include WIC payments shows just how much a stretch it becomes Outside of pandemic years the estimates for all of agriculture in the US ranges from the low twenties in billions to highs in fifties. Again, depends on what you count. The real issue isn't what we are subsidizing in this case but that we don't insure that the small farms are compensated as well as large private and commercial farms are because the regulatory burden puts obtaining such funds into the category of not worth the time and money

Yes, meat and dairy are the new Big Oil. In fact, they spend a bigger relative portion of their income for lobyying than Big Oil: https://insideclimatenews.org/news/02042021/meat-dairy-lobby-climate-action/ https://insideclimatenews.org/news/02042021/meat-dairy-lobby...

specialist 6y ago
I just watched The Poison Squad. The tortured history of banning poisons from food, aka the progressive era Pure Food movement. Big Food pioneered lobbying, alongside all the other robber barons.

Shivetya 6y ago

government subsidizes everything to one level or another. to say it is subsidized higher than other sectors within agriculture is more meme than fact. some segments may be depending on your country. in the US we subsidize everything to include corn for ethanol to cotton which we ship to China and receive back as finished clothing. the issue has always been subsidies are politicians means to show their constituents they are doing their job, bringing home the bacon. however the rules and regulations are stacked such that only very large farms and organizations see real benefit. US wise, most subsidies are towards guarantees of rates. Dairy and Meat get picked on a lot because they are very noticeable but much of the numbers assigned to them are because corn is a feed product and the biggest crop in the US by far. Throw in that many who don't care for animal farming will then associate any other subsidy they can find, to include WIC payments shows just how much a stretch it becomes Outside of pandemic years the estimates for all of agriculture in the US ranges from the low twenties in billions to highs in fifties. Again, depends on what you count. The real issue isn't what we are subsidizing in this case but that we don't insure that the small farms are compensated as well as large private and commercial farms are because the regulatory burden puts obtaining such funds into the category of not worth the time and money