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LG dryer sending 1GB+ daily traffic

30 points by Garbage 5y ago

10000truths 5y ago
How is it even connecting to the Internet in the first place? Surely the OP isn’t willingly plugging an Ethernet cable into his dryer or giving it his WiFi password.
- stevula 5y ago
  Given that the post is in the “smart home” subreddit, I’m pretty sure they did connect it to their wifi network intentionally. It probably does something very basic like send a push notification when the load is done.
- theshrike79 5y ago
  Samsung TVs will forcibly connect to any open AP to get internet access... There was a story in a similar subreddit where the owner of the TV intentionally didn't connect the TV to any networks. But a neighbour set up an unprotected WiFi network and the TV connected to it automatically without any prompt. And there is no way to tell it NOT to connect anywhere.
  - znpy 5y ago
    > Samsung TVs will forcibly connect to any open AP to get internet access... I wonder what the legal consequences of that. What if the open network is pay-per-bandwidth-usage? Could the owner bring you to court, since you own the TV? And could you bring Samsung to court over that? Just wondering.
    - theshrike79 5y ago
      And just the security implications of connecting to any open network. I could tap your viewing easily and possibly compromise your TV remotely by having it automatically connect to a hostile wifi nearby.
  - theshrike79 5y ago
    Found the source: https://www.reddit.com/r/privacy/comments/bpr6xs/if_you_choose_to_not_connect_your_samsung_smart/ https://www.reddit.com/r/privacy/comments/bpr6xs/if_you_choo...
174SIGSEGV 5y ago
I'm curious what 'useful' feature set of a laundry machine is enabled by Internet access. The only thing that comes to mind is remote access e.g. to change washer/dryer settings or to check cycle progress, but surely implementation of the aforementioned features requires only LAN (or LAN + SSH etc.), and not public internet access. Or just buy a regular machine which doesn't suffer from these anti-features.
- atlbeer 5y ago
  Push notifications for when a cycle is complete is the prime feature
  - HomeDeLaPot 5y ago
    At a gig a day, I imagine OP is getting down-to-the-second analytics on wash temperature and spin speed and a live feed from a camera inside the lid. What else could use that much data?
    - selfhoster11 5y ago
      Lots and lots of logging, I would wager.

30 points by Garbage 5y ago

How is it even connecting to the Internet in the first place? Surely the OP isn’t willingly plugging an Ethernet cable into his dryer or giving it his WiFi password.

stevula 5y ago
Given that the post is in the “smart home” subreddit, I’m pretty sure they did connect it to their wifi network intentionally. It probably does something very basic like send a push notification when the load is done.
theshrike79 5y ago
Samsung TVs will forcibly connect to any open AP to get internet access... There was a story in a similar subreddit where the owner of the TV intentionally didn't connect the TV to any networks. But a neighbour set up an unprotected WiFi network and the TV connected to it automatically without any prompt. And there is no way to tell it NOT to connect anywhere.
- znpy 5y ago
  > Samsung TVs will forcibly connect to any open AP to get internet access... I wonder what the legal consequences of that. What if the open network is pay-per-bandwidth-usage? Could the owner bring you to court, since you own the TV? And could you bring Samsung to court over that? Just wondering.
  - theshrike79 5y ago
    And just the security implications of connecting to any open network. I could tap your viewing easily and possibly compromise your TV remotely by having it automatically connect to a hostile wifi nearby.
- theshrike79 5y ago
  Found the source: https://www.reddit.com/r/privacy/comments/bpr6xs/if_you_choose_to_not_connect_your_samsung_smart/ https://www.reddit.com/r/privacy/comments/bpr6xs/if_you_choo...

174SIGSEGV 5y ago

I'm curious what 'useful' feature set of a laundry machine is enabled by Internet access. The only thing that comes to mind is remote access e.g. to change washer/dryer settings or to check cycle progress, but surely implementation of the aforementioned features requires only LAN (or LAN + SSH etc.), and not public internet access. Or just buy a regular machine which doesn't suffer from these anti-features.

atlbeer 5y ago
Push notifications for when a cycle is complete is the prime feature
- HomeDeLaPot 5y ago
  At a gig a day, I imagine OP is getting down-to-the-second analytics on wash temperature and spin speed and a live feed from a camera inside the lid. What else could use that much data?
  - selfhoster11 5y ago
    Lots and lots of logging, I would wager.