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> Name one thing that a GUI program can't handle, I dare you. Pipe input/output between programs. Chaining cli tools is essential for my work and personal usag

by rank0 6y ago

> Name one thing that a GUI program can't handle, I dare you. Pipe input/output between programs. Chaining cli tools is essential for my work and personal usage. > Me, on the other hand, I can point you to a trillion dollar business that uses only GUI and not a single CLI, to say the least. That's observably not true. Why didn't you just type out the name?

unnouinceput 6y ago
Because it is obvious, but apparently not to the HN crowd. Let me name it then. Game industry, it's bigger than both music and film industry and it runs exclusively on GUI. Even text based games are GUI actually, not CLI.
- creata 6y ago
  You said "a trillion dollar business", not "a trillion dollar industry" so of course people misunderstood you! And even though the game industry primarily makes GUIs, it still uses CLIs everywhere in the development process, so it's pretty silly to say that it "uses only GUI and not a single CLI." And the console that's present in just about every game doesn't seem very "graphical" either.
  - unnouinceput 6y ago
    That's their problem, not mine. Gaming is a business, Apple is a company. I heard plenty of times here on HN that Google's business is advertising. So go and argue this with the other million of post that uses this semantics.
- ben509 6y ago
  A UI presents a structure to enable the user to query and manipulate objects. A CLI represents that structure by accepting textual commands and presenting output textually. A GUI represents that structure by displaying objects graphically, showing their spatial representation and connection. And, traditionally, a GUI tends to show more structure up front while a CLI simply prompts you for a command. The distinction isn't perfect, but a text adventure game is well inside the CLI camp.
- rank0 6y ago
  1. The game industry obviously is not a single business. 2. Every single company in that industry uses cli tools. Both assertion from your original statement are incorrect. What’s your beef with the command line anyways? It’s just an interface.
jodrellblank 6y ago
Windows PowerShell: Get-ChildItem | Out-GridView -output multiple | Format-Table There is a GUI with piped input, and piped output, which can be used to filter the pipeline objects using ctrl-click to multiple select "I want this, this, and that" in a view that is sortable and filterable.

by rank0 6y ago

unnouinceput 6y ago

Because it is obvious, but apparently not to the HN crowd. Let me name it then. Game industry, it's bigger than both music and film industry and it runs exclusively on GUI. Even text based games are GUI actually, not CLI.

creata 6y ago
You said "a trillion dollar business", not "a trillion dollar industry" so of course people misunderstood you! And even though the game industry primarily makes GUIs, it still uses CLIs everywhere in the development process, so it's pretty silly to say that it "uses only GUI and not a single CLI." And the console that's present in just about every game doesn't seem very "graphical" either.
- unnouinceput 6y ago
  That's their problem, not mine. Gaming is a business, Apple is a company. I heard plenty of times here on HN that Google's business is advertising. So go and argue this with the other million of post that uses this semantics.
ben509 6y ago
A UI presents a structure to enable the user to query and manipulate objects. A CLI represents that structure by accepting textual commands and presenting output textually. A GUI represents that structure by displaying objects graphically, showing their spatial representation and connection. And, traditionally, a GUI tends to show more structure up front while a CLI simply prompts you for a command. The distinction isn't perfect, but a text adventure game is well inside the CLI camp.
rank0 6y ago
1. The game industry obviously is not a single business. 2. Every single company in that industry uses cli tools. Both assertion from your original statement are incorrect. What’s your beef with the command line anyways? It’s just an interface.

jodrellblank 6y ago

Windows PowerShell: Get-ChildItem | Out-GridView -output multiple | Format-Table There is a GUI with piped input, and piped output, which can be used to filter the pipeline objects using ctrl-click to multiple select "I want this, this, and that" in a view that is sortable and filterable.