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Honestly that's where a strong guiding government comes in. Since we know that the free market is a race to the bottom... they knew the money would go for the h

Honestly that's where a strong guiding government comes in. Since we know that the free market is a race to the bottom... they knew the money would go for the highest return in China. The US government in the 70's, 80's, and especially 90's should've known that the CCP was playing a game and a long game at that. No doubt they had surveillance on high level communications. Knowing they were playing the long game, they should've had strict laws that were basically limiting the US 1 for 1. ex. For every US student that studies PhD in China, one Chinese student can come here. What happened was that thousands of Chinese learned about the highest levels of physics and technology at our universities and then used that information back in China to build hypersonic missiles that will be used to destroy our carrier fleets in a few years. As well as medium range missiles to destroy Taiwan.

triceratops 6y ago
> The US government in the 70's, 80's, and especially 90's should've known that the CCP was playing a game They were blinded by their ideology, which told them that capitalism is inseparable from freedom and democracy. And bringing the first to China would bring the other 2 as well. > For every US student that studies PhD in China, one Chinese student can come here. Were there a lot of US students lining up to go to Chinese universities in the 70s and 80s? How would that even work? > thousands of Chinese learned about the highest levels of physics and technology at our universities If they could learn it at universities, was it really all that secret?
- randomopining 6y ago
  1. Yup. They were naive. 2. No. That’s the point. They got all the knowledge transfer benefits and we got some tuition money (who cares). 3. You think studying a PhD in physics at MIT or a large CA State institution is gonna be commonplace knowledge? I’m not talking about undergrad or even grad stuff.
ipaddr 6y ago
That is not really want happened at all. Technology was stolen at times, copied or given. Students studing in the US are not the cause. If that were the case the Saudi's would be on the same level / India included. One student studying in China to one student in the US sounds like a bad deal. If the US education system is better shouldn't it be two to one? Besides the money charged to foreign students (which is very high) helps pay for US students and keeps those fees lower. Now if the ask was no ivy or tier I schools because of a shortage of space and crazy demand. I could come around.
- randomopining 6y ago
  1. Yeah so the US system is better and educated those that now design next gen missiles and drones for the PLA 2. Colleges are expensive because they go carte Blanche. If they kept costs down by cutting frivolous positions, they could be sustainable.

triceratops 6y ago

> The US government in the 70's, 80's, and especially 90's should've known that the CCP was playing a game They were blinded by their ideology, which told them that capitalism is inseparable from freedom and democracy. And bringing the first to China would bring the other 2 as well. > For every US student that studies PhD in China, one Chinese student can come here. Were there a lot of US students lining up to go to Chinese universities in the 70s and 80s? How would that even work? > thousands of Chinese learned about the highest levels of physics and technology at our universities If they could learn it at universities, was it really all that secret?

randomopining 6y ago
1. Yup. They were naive. 2. No. That’s the point. They got all the knowledge transfer benefits and we got some tuition money (who cares). 3. You think studying a PhD in physics at MIT or a large CA State institution is gonna be commonplace knowledge? I’m not talking about undergrad or even grad stuff.

ipaddr 6y ago

That is not really want happened at all. Technology was stolen at times, copied or given. Students studing in the US are not the cause. If that were the case the Saudi's would be on the same level / India included. One student studying in China to one student in the US sounds like a bad deal. If the US education system is better shouldn't it be two to one? Besides the money charged to foreign students (which is very high) helps pay for US students and keeps those fees lower. Now if the ask was no ivy or tier I schools because of a shortage of space and crazy demand. I could come around.

randomopining 6y ago
1. Yeah so the US system is better and educated those that now design next gen missiles and drones for the PLA 2. Colleges are expensive because they go carte Blanche. If they kept costs down by cutting frivolous positions, they could be sustainable.