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Unlike a couple replies to this comment, I don't believe that Thiel is all that concerned about making money -- IIRC he would be far richer today if he had simp
by dnissley 6y ago
Unlike a couple replies to this comment, I don't believe that Thiel is all that concerned about making money -- IIRC he would be far richer today if he had simply left his share of facebook in the market compared to the mix of investments he's made since then. And hey, who can blame him? Once you reach a certain point, it's surely not a big motivator. Better to lead an interesting life making interesting investments rather than tack on an extra X billion dollars doing diddly squat.
On the other hand he does seem very interested in wielding his influence to create the world he wants to live in. See Trump, see Gawker for example. My hunch is that he's taking a wider view on liberty -- he sees it as under threat (by China, but also others -- including internal actors within the US), and doesn't trust that liberty will "sell itself" any more than he believes software will sell itself (see zero to one chapter 11). I don't know if he's wrong either -- if China can get the upper hand and solidify some amount of control over the United States, however soft, that could be a very bad thing indeed for liberty -- why not be a pragmatist and sacrifice a little now for a lot more later? The danger of course is if it's not temporary and becomes the seed of the United States own version of totalitarianism.
Thiel is someone who has shown time and time again that he refuses to simply buy any particular narrative hook, line, and sinker. He's very woke to the danger in that kind of "feeling-thinking" combo -- and that goes for the libertarian narrative as well. He's shown himself to be willing to be pragmatic, even opportunistic in his attempts to stay ahead of things and sacrifice money in exchange for being in a position to shape the world. We, of course, see the times he's been right, but I'm far more curious about his failures -- based on how often he's been right I can only guess there are lots of them.
- ceilingcorner 6y agoThank you. This is exactly the sort of comment I was hoping for. I agree with most of what you say re: pragmatism, but I do think Palantir is a bit much. Unless he’s playing a meta-game and assuming that surveillance will be inevitable and it’s preferable to be in the driver’s seat than locked in the back.
- dnissley 6y agoThis is a big stretch, but I do wonder with Thiel's Christian background and his interest in Girard's mimetic theory that he sees himself as acting in a Christ-like manner -- strategically sacrificing himself again and again in order to save that which he loves, even if it doesn't love him back. The problem with that of course is the "strategically". He's made what seem to be deals with the devil on many occasions -- Trump being the obvious example, and having a hand in pardoning Levandowski being the most recent one. I'm not so sure that he's crossed the line into "evil villain" territory as many think, but is he headed that way? Maybe.
- ibn-python 6y agoI actually thought he was playing the meta game with palantir. His rhetoric of democracy is incompatible with freedom became famous around the time of the founding of Palantir. I viewed it as him attempting to reign as a philosopher-king-ceo steering the surveillance apparatus the US gov is contracting out as safely as he thought is possible.