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This story seems like a SJW or alt right set up to get normal people to argue about "Pronouns", with a heap of fat shaming thrown in for good measure. If load

This story seems like a SJW or alt right set up to get normal people to argue about "Pronouns", with a heap of fat shaming thrown in for good measure. If load weight is such an issue, why wouldn't they just have scales at the gates or somewhere alone the taxi route that weighs the entire loaded plane. In the trucking industry there are even certain trailers with scales built-in and portable enforcement units that the highway enforcement use to catch and fine overweight loads. I have heard stories of helicopter passengers needed to be seated according to their weight to balance a load but would hope the margin of error in a 737 covers atleast 2X passenger weight, they made everything else double redundant on them.

duxup 6y ago
>If load weight is such an issue It is an issue, passenger weight is included in calculations, but you don't have to weight everyone.
- sigmaprimus 6y ago
  Yes my wording was imperfect there, loading is and issue and there are many solutions to the problem. Other than my unfortunate turn of phrase, I feel the point I was trying to make was valid.
D13Fd 6y ago
> This story seems like a SJW or alt right set up to get normal people to argue about "Pronouns" Huh? "Miss" is not a pronoun. This is terrible system design regardless, as "Miss" can refer to an adult woman. Per Wikipedia: > Miss is an honorific for addressing a woman who is not married
- sigmaprimus 6y ago
  Regardless of wether "Miss" is a pronoun You understood what I was saying. And the fact that You argue the fact that it is not a pronoun just enforces my argument.
greenshackle2 6y ago
> This story seems like a SJW or alt right set up to get normal people to argue about "Pronouns", with a heap of fat shaming thrown in for good measure. Lol wat? > If load weight is such an issue, why wouldn't they just have scales at the gates or somewhere alone the taxi route that weighs the entire loaded plane. In the trucking industry there are even certain trailers with scales built-in and portable enforcement units that the highway enforcement use to catch and fine overweight loads. Did you even read the report? They show the readout with the estimated vs actual weight. The captain was aware of the discrepancy, they knew the load sheet was off, but went with it anyway. > I have heard stories of helicopter passengers needed to be seated according to their weight to balance a load but would hope the margin of error in a 737 covers atleast 2X passenger weight, they made everything else double redundant on them. The plane didn't crash.. it was within safety factors. The captain decided it was a small enough error. Some random error is expected, but still, it's an issue if the estimates are systematically wrong.
danso 6y ago
"why wouldn't they just have scales at the gates or somewhere alone the taxi route that weighs the entire loaded plane." Have you never flown on a passenger flight, or are you somehow unable to imagine how catastrophically inefficient it would be to have a flight delayed/canceled when an airplane has been boarded and is taxiing down the runway? And if fat-shaming is a concern, how do you think forcing passengers to line up and have their weight recorded? Having an accurate-enough algorithm for estimating weight is obviously a desirable and achievable solution to satisfy safety and engineering requirements.

duxup 6y ago

>If load weight is such an issue It is an issue, passenger weight is included in calculations, but you don't have to weight everyone.

sigmaprimus 6y ago
Yes my wording was imperfect there, loading is and issue and there are many solutions to the problem. Other than my unfortunate turn of phrase, I feel the point I was trying to make was valid.

D13Fd 6y ago

> This story seems like a SJW or alt right set up to get normal people to argue about "Pronouns" Huh? "Miss" is not a pronoun. This is terrible system design regardless, as "Miss" can refer to an adult woman. Per Wikipedia: > Miss is an honorific for addressing a woman who is not married

sigmaprimus 6y ago
Regardless of wether "Miss" is a pronoun You understood what I was saying. And the fact that You argue the fact that it is not a pronoun just enforces my argument.

greenshackle2 6y ago

> This story seems like a SJW or alt right set up to get normal people to argue about "Pronouns", with a heap of fat shaming thrown in for good measure. Lol wat? > If load weight is such an issue, why wouldn't they just have scales at the gates or somewhere alone the taxi route that weighs the entire loaded plane. In the trucking industry there are even certain trailers with scales built-in and portable enforcement units that the highway enforcement use to catch and fine overweight loads. Did you even read the report? They show the readout with the estimated vs actual weight. The captain was aware of the discrepancy, they knew the load sheet was off, but went with it anyway. > I have heard stories of helicopter passengers needed to be seated according to their weight to balance a load but would hope the margin of error in a 737 covers atleast 2X passenger weight, they made everything else double redundant on them. The plane didn't crash.. it was within safety factors. The captain decided it was a small enough error. Some random error is expected, but still, it's an issue if the estimates are systematically wrong.

danso 6y ago

"why wouldn't they just have scales at the gates or somewhere alone the taxi route that weighs the entire loaded plane." Have you never flown on a passenger flight, or are you somehow unable to imagine how catastrophically inefficient it would be to have a flight delayed/canceled when an airplane has been boarded and is taxiing down the runway? And if fat-shaming is a concern, how do you think forcing passengers to line up and have their weight recorded? Having an accurate-enough algorithm for estimating weight is obviously a desirable and achievable solution to satisfy safety and engineering requirements.