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> They had no sophisticated software to help them. Which is a shame because they sometimes make bad transcriptions... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFWCbGzx

> They had no sophisticated software to help them. Which is a shame because they sometimes make bad transcriptions... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFWCbGzxofU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFWCbGzxofU is a deep dive by Adam Neely into "Girl From Ipanema" covering how "The Real Book" neutered the blues countermelody because ... someone just didn't write it down in the 70s and everyone learns it from TRB now.

lc9er 6y ago
Guitar tab sites always had the same problem with bad transcriptions. Fortunately, there’s a whole generation of musicians that do fairly accurate “how to play” series on YouTube.
- alexilliamson 6y ago
  IMO Ultimate guitar has really great tabs for most reasonably popular songs. The ratings don't seem to be gamed as much as other sites as well. It's almost good enough to forgive all the shady UX patterns all over the site.
  - achn 6y ago
    The current version of this website is so shaddy and specifically geared to destroy the original concept of tabs being easy to copy and edit. This website is now the antithesis of where it started. It is a perfect example of everything that is wrong with the modern web.
    - Naracion 6y ago
      Have the two of you given Songsterr a try? I've used it a couple times in its nascent years, and it seemed promising. But boy I used it again recently and it's improved a _lot_ and their library of songs has also grown substantially! I really love Songsterr now and check there before Ultimate Guitar if I need anything.
biggieshellz 6y ago
Same thing with Blue Bossa. The syncopation in the original is completely missing in the Real Book chart, and now every high school jazz musician learns it the Real Book way and runs it into the ground.
- whimsicalism 6y ago
  If you're just straight up reading from The Real Book and not listening to the records, you're playing yourself. I was also lucky to have a piano teacher who would correct the wrong stuff in the real book for me.
GavinMcG 6y ago
Thanks for sharing that! What a great dive into the particulars—way beyond my music theory knowledge, but still accessible.
leephillips 6y ago
This video is absolutely fascinating. Thank you!
fortran77 6y ago
The software that helps is the ability to play and replay any part of the track, or slow things down a bit. The "transcription" is usually done by someone who knows music...

lc9er 6y ago

Guitar tab sites always had the same problem with bad transcriptions. Fortunately, there’s a whole generation of musicians that do fairly accurate “how to play” series on YouTube.

alexilliamson 6y ago
IMO Ultimate guitar has really great tabs for most reasonably popular songs. The ratings don't seem to be gamed as much as other sites as well. It's almost good enough to forgive all the shady UX patterns all over the site.
- achn 6y ago
  The current version of this website is so shaddy and specifically geared to destroy the original concept of tabs being easy to copy and edit. This website is now the antithesis of where it started. It is a perfect example of everything that is wrong with the modern web.
  - Naracion 6y ago
    Have the two of you given Songsterr a try? I've used it a couple times in its nascent years, and it seemed promising. But boy I used it again recently and it's improved a _lot_ and their library of songs has also grown substantially! I really love Songsterr now and check there before Ultimate Guitar if I need anything.

biggieshellz 6y ago

Same thing with Blue Bossa. The syncopation in the original is completely missing in the Real Book chart, and now every high school jazz musician learns it the Real Book way and runs it into the ground.

whimsicalism 6y ago
If you're just straight up reading from The Real Book and not listening to the records, you're playing yourself. I was also lucky to have a piano teacher who would correct the wrong stuff in the real book for me.

GavinMcG 6y ago

Thanks for sharing that! What a great dive into the particulars—way beyond my music theory knowledge, but still accessible.

leephillips 6y ago

This video is absolutely fascinating. Thank you!

fortran77 6y ago

The software that helps is the ability to play and replay any part of the track, or slow things down a bit. The "transcription" is usually done by someone who knows music...