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I’ve tried Signal multiple times but after Telegram it’s like moving from Facebook to MySpace from 2004. No, thank you. I’m kinda surprised people are not annoy

by b212 6y ago

I’ve tried Signal multiple times but after Telegram it’s like moving from Facebook to MySpace from 2004. No, thank you. I’m kinda surprised people are not annoyed by Signal or WhatsApp and keep using them, to me they’re simply unbearable.

herbst 6y ago
Same. Even if telegram has their own issues and prolly not the best encryption. Its an amazing chat client that is not centered in the US or five eyes.
- evgen 6y ago
  Instead it is controlled by Russians and has a history of dodgy security/crypto. Yeah, that is _much_ better.
  - herbst 6y ago
    Its kinda sad that these are the choices we have. But i do honestly think thats way better, yes
Cederfjard 6y ago
I’ve never used Telegram. What am I missing? WhatsApp is simple and works really well for what I’m using it for, keeping in touch with friends and family.
- Daho0n 6y ago
  It's a great tool to keep in touch with family. For secure and private communication? Not so much unless you believe Facebook is a pillar of privacy and truth and you follow the "I have nothing to hide" fallacy.
  - Cederfjard 6y ago
    Thanks, that’s my sense of it too. However the other poster seemed to claim the experience of using Signal and WhatsApp is ”unbearable” compared to Telegram, so I wonder what it has in terms of features or user experience that makes it so much better. My guess, and pardon me if I’m a bit rude, is that the difference is features I probably don’t care about. But I’m open to be evangelized.
yosito 6y ago
I want to like Telegram, I really do. But even with the "privacy" settings as strict as possible, I get unsolicited messages from random strangers at all hours of the day with no ability to mute them. I get 2-3 of these messages per day on both of my Telegram accounts. I don't know how anyone can consider Telegram private or trustworthy.
- pndy 6y ago
  I'm using Telegram since 2014 and I never had issues with random people sending me messages of any kind. Maybe your phone number leaks somewhere?
viraptor 6y ago
It's as simple as: WA and Signal (same protocol) are believed to be still the publicly available state of art in e2ee (by default) consumable by your average person. Telegram has an opt-in setting for e2ee in specific contexts, otherwise you can assume your conversations are slurped by some agency (telegram also has some government-approved versions). That's even before we get into their past security issues / breaches. From security/privacy point of view it's really not better.
rijoja 6y ago
Yeah, Telegram is way ahead of everything else in terms of usability. Also it isn't a resource hog like everything Facebook.

by b212 6y ago

herbst 6y ago

Same. Even if telegram has their own issues and prolly not the best encryption. Its an amazing chat client that is not centered in the US or five eyes.

evgen 6y ago
Instead it is controlled by Russians and has a history of dodgy security/crypto. Yeah, that is _much_ better.
- herbst 6y ago
  Its kinda sad that these are the choices we have. But i do honestly think thats way better, yes

Cederfjard 6y ago

I’ve never used Telegram. What am I missing? WhatsApp is simple and works really well for what I’m using it for, keeping in touch with friends and family.

Daho0n 6y ago
It's a great tool to keep in touch with family. For secure and private communication? Not so much unless you believe Facebook is a pillar of privacy and truth and you follow the "I have nothing to hide" fallacy.
- Cederfjard 6y ago
  Thanks, that’s my sense of it too. However the other poster seemed to claim the experience of using Signal and WhatsApp is ”unbearable” compared to Telegram, so I wonder what it has in terms of features or user experience that makes it so much better. My guess, and pardon me if I’m a bit rude, is that the difference is features I probably don’t care about. But I’m open to be evangelized.

yosito 6y ago

I want to like Telegram, I really do. But even with the "privacy" settings as strict as possible, I get unsolicited messages from random strangers at all hours of the day with no ability to mute them. I get 2-3 of these messages per day on both of my Telegram accounts. I don't know how anyone can consider Telegram private or trustworthy.

pndy 6y ago
I'm using Telegram since 2014 and I never had issues with random people sending me messages of any kind. Maybe your phone number leaks somewhere?

viraptor 6y ago

It's as simple as: WA and Signal (same protocol) are believed to be still the publicly available state of art in e2ee (by default) consumable by your average person. Telegram has an opt-in setting for e2ee in specific contexts, otherwise you can assume your conversations are slurped by some agency (telegram also has some government-approved versions). That's even before we get into their past security issues / breaches. From security/privacy point of view it's really not better.

rijoja 6y ago

Yeah, Telegram is way ahead of everything else in terms of usability. Also it isn't a resource hog like everything Facebook.