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Regardless if you think this is good or bad one things I think bears pointing out. Twitch banning process has no accountability. They can ban you for however sl

Regardless if you think this is good or bad one things I think bears pointing out. Twitch banning process has no accountability. They can ban you for however slight or even perceived and for a lot of people it means a loss of their livelihood and they don't have to justify to anyone. And it not very hard to frame it on breaking some deliberately vague rule. Now I don't think that is much of leap to understand the chilling effect that would have. And you can be okay with that. It all to fight wrongthink anyway. But remember twitch is owned by amazon, a company the is running at the moment a disinformation campaign against its own workers effort to unionize. So twitch may enforce rules that align with your own beliefs right now, but they are not on anyone's side but their own and if suits them to go against those very same believe there is no one to stop them. I don't really want such a entity presiding over the morality of my life, would you?

judge2020 5y ago
> I don't really want such a entity presiding over the morality of my life, would you? You typing in twitch.com is a choice, you're not forced to watch it or acknowledge its presence. People want Twitch accountability for their bans, and they might succeed, but the reality is that Twitch is currently the biggest gaming livestream platform simply because they already have everything that streamers and viewers want - live chat, monetization, moderation tools, etc. Live streaming is pretty easy to bootstrap with nginx-rtmp (maybe not as easy to turn a profit on[0]), so it's not like there's no way for competition to enter the market. Floatplane.com also does live streaming so they're going to end up as a sizable competitor within then next few years hopefully. 0: https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/22/21299032/microsoft-mixer-closing-facebook-gaming-partnership-xcloud-features https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/22/21299032/microsoft-mixer-...
- kansface 5y ago
  Right, I’d concede you have a point if it weren’t the entire fucking US Internet hell-bent on doing this. This comment exists in every thread every time yet another company acquiesces to the new moral police. I’m not personally interested in reimplementing Twitch, Amazon, Twitter, Stripe, email, and a bank. It is extraordinarily unhealthy for society to completely bifurcate into two mutually exclusive enclaves that ban their political opponents wrongthoughts and seek to destroy the lives of those who transgress. That is the path we are on and it will not end well.
epinephrinios 5y ago
I could never put more eloquently. Chilling effect and slippery slope.

judge2020 5y ago

> I don't really want such a entity presiding over the morality of my life, would you? You typing in twitch.com is a choice, you're not forced to watch it or acknowledge its presence. People want Twitch accountability for their bans, and they might succeed, but the reality is that Twitch is currently the biggest gaming livestream platform simply because they already have everything that streamers and viewers want - live chat, monetization, moderation tools, etc. Live streaming is pretty easy to bootstrap with nginx-rtmp (maybe not as easy to turn a profit on[0]), so it's not like there's no way for competition to enter the market. Floatplane.com also does live streaming so they're going to end up as a sizable competitor within then next few years hopefully. 0: https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/22/21299032/microsoft-mixer-closing-facebook-gaming-partnership-xcloud-features https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/22/21299032/microsoft-mixer-...

kansface 5y ago
Right, I’d concede you have a point if it weren’t the entire fucking US Internet hell-bent on doing this. This comment exists in every thread every time yet another company acquiesces to the new moral police. I’m not personally interested in reimplementing Twitch, Amazon, Twitter, Stripe, email, and a bank. It is extraordinarily unhealthy for society to completely bifurcate into two mutually exclusive enclaves that ban their political opponents wrongthoughts and seek to destroy the lives of those who transgress. That is the path we are on and it will not end well.

epinephrinios 5y ago

I could never put more eloquently. Chilling effect and slippery slope.