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And with every single big media corporation now demanding a piece of the streaming cake by turning more productions into exclusive content (and thus turning onl

And with every single big media corporation now demanding a piece of the streaming cake by turning more productions into exclusive content (and thus turning online streaming into cable again), people will slowly turn back to piracy.

wincy 6y ago
PLEX with a gigabit connection is the ultimate streaming service
tlholaday 6y ago
People who can’t be arsed to rotate their subscriptions will steal.
- tablespoon 6y ago
  > People who can’t be arsed to rotate their subscriptions will steal. So most people? About the last thing I want to spend my time doing is figuring out how to rotate my streaming subscriptions so I can watch what I want to watch without paying $100 in subscriptions per month.
carlhjerpe 6y ago
I doubt the majority of people will turn to piracy as in downloading torrents, account sharing and pay per use movies might increase instead? Netflix and the likes are too convenient with casting/airplay and rememberong what you've seen. Stremio brings piracy closer to netflix feeling, but it happens that content doesn't match packs, not enough seeds and subtitles might require manual offsets, still quite darn good though.
- ikerdanzel 6y ago
  All the people I know now has significantly increase pirated content within this last 6mths. A few decide to ignore Disney+ as majority of its content are easily piratable. Netflix has achieve popularity so they have advantage there. Amazon bundled with their delivery, advantage also. The rest, they are piratable without much issue. VPN is near bullet proof of any lawyering.
dragonwriter 6y ago
> people will slowly turn back to piracy. Wait, when did the people who turned to piracy in the first place turn away so that they could “slowly turn back”? I think its more “the pirate subculture will slowly update its rationalizations”.
- colordrops 6y ago
  No. People get older, get more income, and prefer the convenience of a service to piracy and eventually stop doing it. But with a proliferation of services now, many are not willing to subscribe to them all, and when their child wants to watch that one movie that all their classmates have seen, and is on the service they don't subscribe to, they go back to firing up the old VPN and torrent client they haven't touched in years. Speaking from experience here. And it's not an isolated experience.
  - eloff 6y ago
    My experience is the same. Used to pirate music, then spotify was good enough not to bother anymore. Used to pirate movies and TV, now I only do it occasionally for titles I want to watch, but aren't being streamed on any service I'm subscribed to. I'm still pissed at Disney for canceling Gina Carano, so I might pirate the next season of the mandalorian if I still care by then.
  - 2pEXgD0fZ5cF 6y ago
    This, the narrative of the evil people pirating stuff because they just don't want to pay for anything is for the most part a myth planted by corporations. Valve realized this [1] when it came to games, Apple and Spotify realized this when it came to music. And there was the study financed by the EU [2] that came to the conclusion that for games, books and music there is "no robust statistical evidence of displacement of sales by online piracy." So I too subscribe to the evidence and personal experience that the choice between piracy and purchase is a choice of convenience and availability. There are many cases in which the pirates just offer better service and distribution. [1]: https://v1.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/114391-Valves-Gabe-Newell-Says-Piracy-Is-a-Service-Problem https://v1.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/114391-Valves-Gabe... [2]: https://cdn.netzpolitik.org/wp-upload/2017/09/displacement_study.pdf https://cdn.netzpolitik.org/wp-upload/2017/09/displacement_s...
cloverich 6y ago
I doubt it because previously, you did not have easy access to shows on demand. You could purchase from a small set of large, expensive packages which contained 80% things you probably did not want to watch, and even then very little of it was on demand. Cable is upwards of $50-100 or more, whereas you can get Disney, Netflix, and HBO for less than that.

wincy 6y ago

PLEX with a gigabit connection is the ultimate streaming service

tlholaday 6y ago

People who can’t be arsed to rotate their subscriptions will steal.

tablespoon 6y ago
> People who can’t be arsed to rotate their subscriptions will steal. So most people? About the last thing I want to spend my time doing is figuring out how to rotate my streaming subscriptions so I can watch what I want to watch without paying $100 in subscriptions per month.

carlhjerpe 6y ago

I doubt the majority of people will turn to piracy as in downloading torrents, account sharing and pay per use movies might increase instead? Netflix and the likes are too convenient with casting/airplay and rememberong what you've seen. Stremio brings piracy closer to netflix feeling, but it happens that content doesn't match packs, not enough seeds and subtitles might require manual offsets, still quite darn good though.

ikerdanzel 6y ago
All the people I know now has significantly increase pirated content within this last 6mths. A few decide to ignore Disney+ as majority of its content are easily piratable. Netflix has achieve popularity so they have advantage there. Amazon bundled with their delivery, advantage also. The rest, they are piratable without much issue. VPN is near bullet proof of any lawyering.

dragonwriter 6y ago

> people will slowly turn back to piracy. Wait, when did the people who turned to piracy in the first place turn away so that they could “slowly turn back”? I think its more “the pirate subculture will slowly update its rationalizations”.

colordrops 6y ago
No. People get older, get more income, and prefer the convenience of a service to piracy and eventually stop doing it. But with a proliferation of services now, many are not willing to subscribe to them all, and when their child wants to watch that one movie that all their classmates have seen, and is on the service they don't subscribe to, they go back to firing up the old VPN and torrent client they haven't touched in years. Speaking from experience here. And it's not an isolated experience.
- eloff 6y ago
  My experience is the same. Used to pirate music, then spotify was good enough not to bother anymore. Used to pirate movies and TV, now I only do it occasionally for titles I want to watch, but aren't being streamed on any service I'm subscribed to. I'm still pissed at Disney for canceling Gina Carano, so I might pirate the next season of the mandalorian if I still care by then.
- 2pEXgD0fZ5cF 6y ago
  This, the narrative of the evil people pirating stuff because they just don't want to pay for anything is for the most part a myth planted by corporations. Valve realized this [1] when it came to games, Apple and Spotify realized this when it came to music. And there was the study financed by the EU [2] that came to the conclusion that for games, books and music there is "no robust statistical evidence of displacement of sales by online piracy." So I too subscribe to the evidence and personal experience that the choice between piracy and purchase is a choice of convenience and availability. There are many cases in which the pirates just offer better service and distribution. [1]: https://v1.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/114391-Valves-Gabe-Newell-Says-Piracy-Is-a-Service-Problem https://v1.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/114391-Valves-Gabe... [2]: https://cdn.netzpolitik.org/wp-upload/2017/09/displacement_study.pdf https://cdn.netzpolitik.org/wp-upload/2017/09/displacement_s...

cloverich 6y ago

I doubt it because previously, you did not have easy access to shows on demand. You could purchase from a small set of large, expensive packages which contained 80% things you probably did not want to watch, and even then very little of it was on demand. Cable is upwards of $50-100 or more, whereas you can get Disney, Netflix, and HBO for less than that.