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Not a single firearm? https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/17/politics/capitol-insurrection-weapons-ron-johnson/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/17/politics/capito

Not a single firearm? https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/17/politics/capitol-insurrection-weapons-ron-johnson/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/17/politics/capitol-insurrection... However, I'm not sure where you got the "opinion" that an insurrection must be carried out with a firearm? You can do a quick Google search for the definition of the term. Here's one from the Cambridge dictionary > an organized attempt by a group of people to defeat their government and take control of their country, usually by violence https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/insurrection https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/insurrec...

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TheAdamAndChe 6y ago
A protest that was larger than expected and overran the existing security isn't exactly an organized attempt.
- ngokevin 6y ago
  Upon watching the evidence and trial, it's clear it was organized. They had Save the Dates months ahead (at the exact time the election was being certified) with continued rhetoric that the election was stolen and that they had to march to the Capitol and fight.
  - tryonenow 6y ago
    Literally everything you're describing would be identical to that of a preplanned protest. The implication of "organization" is that of a plan for "insurrection", for which there is no proof of premeditation.
  - TeeMassive 6y ago
    > with continued rhetoric that the election was stolen and that they had to march to the Capitol and fight. None of which are proof of a planned insurrection. Of all the meanings you only picked the ones that fitted your predetermined conclusion. Believing the "election was stolen" is an opinion that comes up every elections from both sides. "Marching" most often means marches, which is a peaceful demonstration in itself, and the Capitol is not just the Capitol building, it's also the Capitol Grounds and the surrounding areas. Fighting is a term often used colloquial non-violent way, as in "fight cancer" and "fighting for civil rights".
nfyjkbxa 6y ago
Organized, it says right there. You think that mob was organized? There was no plan Also, your CNN citation says in the headline that there was a gun found, but then the body of the article contradicts it > Some of the weapons that were confiscated had been seen being used inside the US Capitol including a baseball bat, a fire extinguisher, a wooden club, a spear, crutches, a flagpole, bear spray, mace, chemical irritants, stolen police shields, a wooden beam, a hockey stick, a stun gun, and knives. Where're the guns? CNN knows people only read headlines; they're so brazen with their narrative. After they claimed over and over that Sicknick was killed with a fire extinguisher based on zero evidence for weeks there's no reason to trust the rest of these details in an article from February are true anyway, especially if CNN can't keep the facts straight between the headline and the article body
- castis 6y ago
  It is absurd to assume that there were zero firearms of any kind at that event. There aren't zero firearms at children's birthday parties.
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- aigen001 6y ago
  Here's your gun. https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/case-multi-defendant/file/1364751/download https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/case-multi-defendant/file/13...
  - TeeMassive 6y ago
    > within the District of Columbia Nothings in your court case says anything about the Capitol building.
    - CapnTrips 6y ago
      >On or about January 6, 2021, within the District of Columbia, CHRISTOPHER ALBERTS, did carry and have readily accessible, a firearm, that is, a Taurus G2C semi-automatic handgun, on the United States Capitol Grounds and in any of the Capitol Buildings. In the same sentence you quoted
jkhdigital 6y ago
I stand corrected: a single Taurus G2C 9mm with 25 rounds was confiscated from a man exiting the Capitol. One firearm, not zero.

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TheAdamAndChe 6y ago

A protest that was larger than expected and overran the existing security isn't exactly an organized attempt.

ngokevin 6y ago
Upon watching the evidence and trial, it's clear it was organized. They had Save the Dates months ahead (at the exact time the election was being certified) with continued rhetoric that the election was stolen and that they had to march to the Capitol and fight.
- tryonenow 6y ago
  Literally everything you're describing would be identical to that of a preplanned protest. The implication of "organization" is that of a plan for "insurrection", for which there is no proof of premeditation.
- TeeMassive 6y ago
  > with continued rhetoric that the election was stolen and that they had to march to the Capitol and fight. None of which are proof of a planned insurrection. Of all the meanings you only picked the ones that fitted your predetermined conclusion. Believing the "election was stolen" is an opinion that comes up every elections from both sides. "Marching" most often means marches, which is a peaceful demonstration in itself, and the Capitol is not just the Capitol building, it's also the Capitol Grounds and the surrounding areas. Fighting is a term often used colloquial non-violent way, as in "fight cancer" and "fighting for civil rights".

nfyjkbxa 6y ago

Organized, it says right there. You think that mob was organized? There was no plan Also, your CNN citation says in the headline that there was a gun found, but then the body of the article contradicts it > Some of the weapons that were confiscated had been seen being used inside the US Capitol including a baseball bat, a fire extinguisher, a wooden club, a spear, crutches, a flagpole, bear spray, mace, chemical irritants, stolen police shields, a wooden beam, a hockey stick, a stun gun, and knives. Where're the guns? CNN knows people only read headlines; they're so brazen with their narrative. After they claimed over and over that Sicknick was killed with a fire extinguisher based on zero evidence for weeks there's no reason to trust the rest of these details in an article from February are true anyway, especially if CNN can't keep the facts straight between the headline and the article body

castis 6y ago
It is absurd to assume that there were zero firearms of any kind at that event. There aren't zero firearms at children's birthday parties.
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aigen001 6y ago
Here's your gun. https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/case-multi-defendant/file/1364751/download https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/case-multi-defendant/file/13...
- TeeMassive 6y ago
  > within the District of Columbia Nothings in your court case says anything about the Capitol building.
  - CapnTrips 6y ago
    >On or about January 6, 2021, within the District of Columbia, CHRISTOPHER ALBERTS, did carry and have readily accessible, a firearm, that is, a Taurus G2C semi-automatic handgun, on the United States Capitol Grounds and in any of the Capitol Buildings. In the same sentence you quoted

jkhdigital 6y ago

I stand corrected: a single Taurus G2C 9mm with 25 rounds was confiscated from a man exiting the Capitol. One firearm, not zero.