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> And New Zealand has only vaccinated 0.9% of the population to date, so this is going to drag on for a while to come. They're waiting for vaccine delivery - e

> And New Zealand has only vaccinated 0.9% of the population to date, so this is going to drag on for a while to come. They're waiting for vaccine delivery - expected in July. Australia and New Zealand both had shipments blocked by the EU and US. Also the lockdowns we experienced over the last month have only been for a few days and only for a small region to ensure the outbreak is contained. 1% contraction for countries usually thought to entirely depend on international trade and tourism doesn't really seem major. But sure, your version of my country is probably more accurate than my own.

nickthemagicman 6y ago
My point is...you're not over with Corona until your population is immune...so you're speaking too soon. Going to be interesting to see what happens with quarantine free travel and an immunologically naieve population and shutdowns.
- selimthegrim 6y ago
  How on Earth can you work at Tulane and live in NOLA and write this? Were you here last March and April? Are you and I living in different planes of existence that merely intersect physically? Only closed islands are going to get to herd immunity naturally. Look at Hotez's interview here: https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/health/article/Dr-Peter-Hotez-return-to-normal-covid-summer-gray-16087488.php https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/health/a... "To make things worse, we’re starting to see now, in the upper Midwest, a number of young adults getting very sick. The COVID-19 narrative has always been that it affects older individuals. That was never entirely true, especially among African American and Hispanic populations. But we’re seeing now a lot of young adults get sick. That gives me pause for concern — as does its transmissibility among young people."
  - nickthemagicman 6y ago
    I think the difference between our worlds is that I'm looking at statistics and you're looking at the newsmedia. Orleans is at 5 new cases per 100,000 and 0 deaths. AND Nola is 100% open, bars, restaurants, coffee shops, have been PACKED around the city. Our vaccine rate is well below predicted R values for herd immunity of 50 to 75%. The ONLY explanation is natural herd immunity filling the gap for vaccines. As a matter of fact almost every state across the country is following this pattern. Here's a reference: Feel free to click through the different states and make yourself more aware of what's going on from a statistical perspective instead of a newsmedia perspective who make money through sensationalizing things. https://usafacts.org/visualizations/coronavirus-covid-19-spread-map/state/louisiana/county/orleans-parish https://usafacts.org/visualizations/coronavirus-covid-19-spr...
  - nickthemagicman 6y ago
    "To make things worse, we’re starting to see now, in the upper Midwest, a number of young adults getting very sick. The COVID-19 narrative has always been that it affects older individuals. That was never entirely true, especially among African American and Hispanic populations. But we’re seeing now a lot of young adults get sick. That gives me pause for concern — as does its transmissibility among young people." Sensational! Sensational! Sensational! You really need to turn the news off and just pay attention to statistics. The modern mainstream news is evil.

nickthemagicman 6y ago

My point is...you're not over with Corona until your population is immune...so you're speaking too soon. Going to be interesting to see what happens with quarantine free travel and an immunologically naieve population and shutdowns.

selimthegrim 6y ago
How on Earth can you work at Tulane and live in NOLA and write this? Were you here last March and April? Are you and I living in different planes of existence that merely intersect physically? Only closed islands are going to get to herd immunity naturally. Look at Hotez's interview here: https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/health/article/Dr-Peter-Hotez-return-to-normal-covid-summer-gray-16087488.php https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/health/a... "To make things worse, we’re starting to see now, in the upper Midwest, a number of young adults getting very sick. The COVID-19 narrative has always been that it affects older individuals. That was never entirely true, especially among African American and Hispanic populations. But we’re seeing now a lot of young adults get sick. That gives me pause for concern — as does its transmissibility among young people."
- nickthemagicman 6y ago
  I think the difference between our worlds is that I'm looking at statistics and you're looking at the newsmedia. Orleans is at 5 new cases per 100,000 and 0 deaths. AND Nola is 100% open, bars, restaurants, coffee shops, have been PACKED around the city. Our vaccine rate is well below predicted R values for herd immunity of 50 to 75%. The ONLY explanation is natural herd immunity filling the gap for vaccines. As a matter of fact almost every state across the country is following this pattern. Here's a reference: Feel free to click through the different states and make yourself more aware of what's going on from a statistical perspective instead of a newsmedia perspective who make money through sensationalizing things. https://usafacts.org/visualizations/coronavirus-covid-19-spread-map/state/louisiana/county/orleans-parish https://usafacts.org/visualizations/coronavirus-covid-19-spr...
- nickthemagicman 6y ago
  "To make things worse, we’re starting to see now, in the upper Midwest, a number of young adults getting very sick. The COVID-19 narrative has always been that it affects older individuals. That was never entirely true, especially among African American and Hispanic populations. But we’re seeing now a lot of young adults get sick. That gives me pause for concern — as does its transmissibility among young people." Sensational! Sensational! Sensational! You really need to turn the news off and just pay attention to statistics. The modern mainstream news is evil.