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> As someone who has been engaged in weightlifting for almost 30 years, this is no surprise. Agreed. I was honestly surprised to learn that some people were pr

> As someone who has been engaged in weightlifting for almost 30 years, this is no surprise. Agreed. I was honestly surprised to learn that some people were promoting rest periods as low as 30 seconds for building muscle. It's been common knowledge that super short rest intervals are not helpful for as long as I've been around. Any weightlifter can tell you that super short rest intervals will limit volume, which is detrimental to muscle growth. The article feels a bit like a strawman attack on fitness forums or bodybuilder stereotypes.

porb121 6y ago
> Agreed. I was honestly surprised to learn that some people were promoting rest periods as low as 30 seconds for building muscle. I'll remind everyone that Jeff Cavaliere, YouTube fitness darling beloved by people who don't lift very hard, programmed 1-10 sets of 10 squats @70-80% 1RM with 1 minute rest between sets: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fICF_O5esc&t=174s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fICF_O5esc&t=174s Non-lifters: this is basically impossible for anyone with a decent level of strength. If I attempted this, I'd be getting peeled out of the squat rack after the 2nd set.
- PragmaticPulp 6y ago
  > programmed 1-10 sets of 10 squats @70-80% 1RM with 1 minute rest between sets 10 sets of 10 @ 80% of 1 rep max doesn't make any sense. Nobody can do 100x as many reps as their 1 rep max, unless they've grossly underestimated their 1RM. There is a place for high volume workouts with short rest periods if someone is training for certain specific fitness goals, but it's not optimal for pure muscle building.
  - porb121 6y ago
    > Nobody can do 100x as many reps as their 1 rep max, unless they've grossly underestimated their 1RM. I mean, I could certainly do 100 singles at 80% 1RM, but I get your point. Jeff's program is atrociously bad.
ghodith 6y ago
I mean, as someone who got into lifting ~3yrs ago, I was told (and read online) to rest for ~3 minutes for strength training and 1 minute for hypertrophy. In fact, I had been training that way until yesterday when I read this article, so I don't think it is quite a strawman.

porb121 6y ago

> Agreed. I was honestly surprised to learn that some people were promoting rest periods as low as 30 seconds for building muscle. I'll remind everyone that Jeff Cavaliere, YouTube fitness darling beloved by people who don't lift very hard, programmed 1-10 sets of 10 squats @70-80% 1RM with 1 minute rest between sets: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fICF_O5esc&t=174s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fICF_O5esc&t=174s Non-lifters: this is basically impossible for anyone with a decent level of strength. If I attempted this, I'd be getting peeled out of the squat rack after the 2nd set.

PragmaticPulp 6y ago
> programmed 1-10 sets of 10 squats @70-80% 1RM with 1 minute rest between sets 10 sets of 10 @ 80% of 1 rep max doesn't make any sense. Nobody can do 100x as many reps as their 1 rep max, unless they've grossly underestimated their 1RM. There is a place for high volume workouts with short rest periods if someone is training for certain specific fitness goals, but it's not optimal for pure muscle building.
- porb121 6y ago
  > Nobody can do 100x as many reps as their 1 rep max, unless they've grossly underestimated their 1RM. I mean, I could certainly do 100 singles at 80% 1RM, but I get your point. Jeff's program is atrociously bad.

ghodith 6y ago

I mean, as someone who got into lifting ~3yrs ago, I was told (and read online) to rest for ~3 minutes for strength training and 1 minute for hypertrophy. In fact, I had been training that way until yesterday when I read this article, so I don't think it is quite a strawman.