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People say the same thing about winter in the Northeast. Then when they see how convenient and freeing it is to ride a bike, they quickly learn to deal with the

by rtlfe 5y ago

People say the same thing about winter in the Northeast. Then when they see how convenient and freeing it is to ride a bike, they quickly learn to deal with the weather.

moistbar 5y ago
If you're claiming that people will still ride their bikes to work when it's 20 F outside, you're incorrect.
- sudosysgen 5y ago
  I know a lot of people that ride their bikes at work at such temperatures, and one of the biggest issues with doing that isn't the cold - exertion really warms you up - but badly maintained, snowy shoulders and a higher risk of cars crashing into you. Especially now that ebikes are a thing.
- rtlfe 5y ago
  I'm not sure how to respond to somebody so confidently asserting something so obviously false, but maybe photographic evidence will help? https://nypost.com/2020/12/20/cyclists-frozen-out-of-bike-lanes-after-blizzard-hits-nyc/ https://nypost.com/2020/12/20/cyclists-frozen-out-of-bike-la...
  - moistbar 5y ago
    I'm not sure how to convince someone that people stop going outside when the weather sucks. But hey, you've got a New York Times article, so that obviously means my eyes are wrong, right?
- mauvehaus 5y ago
  If you're claiming that they won't, I'll happily be your counterexample. Buying a Brompton and riding 3 miles from the end of public transit to work through pretty much all weather in Boston was about the best thing I did for my sanity in all of 2019. Yes, on the snowy and icy days too. I did a fair amount of bike commuting in Cleveland as well, though the drive was less hellish and I drove some of the lousier days. The worst part of moving to Vermont, perversely, is that I get less exercise because it's a 25 mile one-way trip to the shop I work out of.
  - Leherenn 5y ago
    I mean, no offense, of course some people like you will bike in all weather, but the reality is that a lot of people will not. See this study, and that's for the Netherlands, not NA winter. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11116-012-9398-5 https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11116-012-9398-5
- TulliusCicero 5y ago
  You couldn't be more wrong: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.euronews.com/amp/2021/01/22/meet-the-bike-loving-finnish-city-that-keeps-pedalling-even-in-the-snow https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.euronews.com/amp/2021/01/22... If you build the right infrastructure, people will ride it.
  - moistbar 5y ago
    I don't know how to convince someone that people stop going outside when the weather gets cold. I thought that was a normal fact of life for everyone who doesn't have an outdoor job.
- sergeykish 5y ago
  Just imagine some people traveling to mountains, attaching boards to legs and having fun. And they pay for it quite a lot. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uhx-26GfCBU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uhx-26GfCBU # Why Canadians Can't Bike in the Winter (but Finnish people can)

by rtlfe 5y ago

People say the same thing about winter in the Northeast. Then when they see how convenient and freeing it is to ride a bike, they quickly learn to deal with the weather.

moistbar 5y ago

If you're claiming that people will still ride their bikes to work when it's 20 F outside, you're incorrect.

sudosysgen 5y ago
I know a lot of people that ride their bikes at work at such temperatures, and one of the biggest issues with doing that isn't the cold - exertion really warms you up - but badly maintained, snowy shoulders and a higher risk of cars crashing into you. Especially now that ebikes are a thing.
rtlfe 5y ago
I'm not sure how to respond to somebody so confidently asserting something so obviously false, but maybe photographic evidence will help? https://nypost.com/2020/12/20/cyclists-frozen-out-of-bike-lanes-after-blizzard-hits-nyc/ https://nypost.com/2020/12/20/cyclists-frozen-out-of-bike-la...
- moistbar 5y ago
  I'm not sure how to convince someone that people stop going outside when the weather sucks. But hey, you've got a New York Times article, so that obviously means my eyes are wrong, right?
mauvehaus 5y ago
If you're claiming that they won't, I'll happily be your counterexample. Buying a Brompton and riding 3 miles from the end of public transit to work through pretty much all weather in Boston was about the best thing I did for my sanity in all of 2019. Yes, on the snowy and icy days too. I did a fair amount of bike commuting in Cleveland as well, though the drive was less hellish and I drove some of the lousier days. The worst part of moving to Vermont, perversely, is that I get less exercise because it's a 25 mile one-way trip to the shop I work out of.
- Leherenn 5y ago
  I mean, no offense, of course some people like you will bike in all weather, but the reality is that a lot of people will not. See this study, and that's for the Netherlands, not NA winter. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11116-012-9398-5 https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11116-012-9398-5
TulliusCicero 5y ago
You couldn't be more wrong: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.euronews.com/amp/2021/01/22/meet-the-bike-loving-finnish-city-that-keeps-pedalling-even-in-the-snow https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.euronews.com/amp/2021/01/22... If you build the right infrastructure, people will ride it.
- moistbar 5y ago
  I don't know how to convince someone that people stop going outside when the weather gets cold. I thought that was a normal fact of life for everyone who doesn't have an outdoor job.
sergeykish 5y ago
Just imagine some people traveling to mountains, attaching boards to legs and having fun. And they pay for it quite a lot. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uhx-26GfCBU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uhx-26GfCBU # Why Canadians Can't Bike in the Winter (but Finnish people can)