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> It said examples of this “severe misconduct” include terrorist activities, child sexual exploitation, violent extremism, credible threats of mass violence, ca

> It said examples of this “severe misconduct” include terrorist activities, child sexual exploitation, violent extremism, credible threats of mass violence, carrying out or deliberately acting as an accomplice to sexual assault and threatening Twitch or its staff. What points here will not already lead to jail time and an outright ban from all social activities? The bans are for criminal acts that are outside of free speech protections.

ngokevin 6y ago
Yeah, I think many people speaking out against "cancel culture" did not read the article. Few people would argue that Twitch would be wrong to ban a pedophile sharing CP or a domestic terrorist.
- sneak 6y ago
  I would argue that Twitch would be wrong for banning even a convicted criminal whose publications themselves were legal. Censorship is abhorrent regardless of who you are censoring. Mein Kampf is available on amazon.com, for example.
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  - ngokevin 6y ago
    I'm curious. If you are in charge of a public company with a platform. There's a pedophile known for trafficking CP (or even more vile offenses). There are headlines that you're giving them exposure. You don't consider not letting them on your platform?
    - GauntletWizard 6y ago
      No, Twitch would hire them as a content moderator, as they have in the past. [1]https://kotaku.com/twitch-apologizes-over-recent-abuse-of-power-by-staff-1469301896 https://kotaku.com/twitch-apologizes-over-recent-abuse-of-po... [2]https://boundingintocomics.com/2020/05/20/twitch-ceo-emmett-shear-issues-statement-on-ferociouslysteph-and-the-safety-advisory-councils-role-its-lie-after-lie/ https://boundingintocomics.com/2020/05/20/twitch-ceo-emmett-...
- eschaton 6y ago
  Or the objectors understood it quite well, and their true objection is that being held accountable for bigoted or violent rhetoric might actually affect them or others they care about, or may reduce the spread of ideologies with which the agree. Personally, I’m glad Twitch is doing this. We don’t need people recruiting for the Klan or the Proud Boys also running gaming streams to gain audience.
sneak 6y ago
"Terrorist activities" could simply mean publishing propaganda articles in support of terrorist groups. That's entirely legal in the US and A.
bad_username 6y ago
"Violent extremism" in the era of "speech is violence" can mean anything at all.

ngokevin 6y ago

Yeah, I think many people speaking out against "cancel culture" did not read the article. Few people would argue that Twitch would be wrong to ban a pedophile sharing CP or a domestic terrorist.

sneak 6y ago
I would argue that Twitch would be wrong for banning even a convicted criminal whose publications themselves were legal. Censorship is abhorrent regardless of who you are censoring. Mein Kampf is available on amazon.com, for example.
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- ngokevin 6y ago
  I'm curious. If you are in charge of a public company with a platform. There's a pedophile known for trafficking CP (or even more vile offenses). There are headlines that you're giving them exposure. You don't consider not letting them on your platform?
  - GauntletWizard 6y ago
    No, Twitch would hire them as a content moderator, as they have in the past. [1]https://kotaku.com/twitch-apologizes-over-recent-abuse-of-power-by-staff-1469301896 https://kotaku.com/twitch-apologizes-over-recent-abuse-of-po... [2]https://boundingintocomics.com/2020/05/20/twitch-ceo-emmett-shear-issues-statement-on-ferociouslysteph-and-the-safety-advisory-councils-role-its-lie-after-lie/ https://boundingintocomics.com/2020/05/20/twitch-ceo-emmett-...
eschaton 6y ago
Or the objectors understood it quite well, and their true objection is that being held accountable for bigoted or violent rhetoric might actually affect them or others they care about, or may reduce the spread of ideologies with which the agree. Personally, I’m glad Twitch is doing this. We don’t need people recruiting for the Klan or the Proud Boys also running gaming streams to gain audience.

sneak 6y ago

"Terrorist activities" could simply mean publishing propaganda articles in support of terrorist groups. That's entirely legal in the US and A.

bad_username 6y ago

"Violent extremism" in the era of "speech is violence" can mean anything at all.