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This ^. Apple is not doing this out of benevolence. They don't to butt up against EU regulators and US courts. These are what I call "lawyer features"

CharlesW 5y ago
No, this is literally about about locking people even further into a closed ecosystem by increasing its utility. (And I say this as an Apple fan.)
- stayaway4u 5y ago
  It's a bit baffling that people are aware of anti consumer practices yet are fans. From the book "The Element", I imagine you(or anyone buying Apple) think you are a unique individual? Is it possible to snap out of it by using your rational, thinking part of your brain?
  - gowld 5y ago
    The rational thinking part of my brain says Apple provides more values for money than competing options, in the real world I live in.
  - drcongo 5y ago
    This comment is so confused that I'm really not sure what point you're trying to make beyond trying and failing to insult people. But just in case this wasn't just the cat walking across your keyboard: yes, it's possible to be a fan of something that provides infinitely more value than the alternative while simultaneously not being perfect. I can't think of anything that _is_ perfect and has fans.
- PurpleFoxy 5y ago
  From the business perspective, Apple probably doesn’t care about selling the tags, the real value is in making the iPhone experience better. So if a user buys a tile tracker and it works better on iOS because of the iPhone network, that’s a win for them. They don’t have to wipe out tile.
  - kalleboo 5y ago
    Yeah, Apple doesn't seem to have much interest in selling little plastic tiles to people. They've avoided selling their own HomeKit gear, they're licensing AirPlay to be put in TVs so people don't have to buy AppleTVs, and they stopped selling routers long ago. Even when it comes to dongles which everyone thinks Apple loves selling, they have a meager selection and have outsourced many of them (e.g. they don't have a first-party USB-C Ethernet dongle) With the MFi Program, they still make lots of money on third-party products, without all of that costly R&D and support on their own end.
    - PurpleFoxy 5y ago
      I have to say that the dongles situation for iPads is so much better on USB c. The apple adapters cost a fortune compared to the USB c versions. I was blown away when I plugged a full laptop USB C hub in to my iPad Air 4 and was able to use a USB keyboard, mouse and hdmi out.
  - rootusrootus 5y ago
    But it will wipe out Tile, unless I am missing something. Apple's solution would instantly make all iPhones into tag detectors, which is a vast improvement over the current Tile situation where only Tile customers' phones are tag detectors. Seems like the only answer for Tile is to get integrated with Apple's solution.
    - PurpleFoxy 5y ago
      Tiles main business model is selling the hardware. They can sell an apple compatible version which will work incredibly and light years ahead of their current product, and then keep selling the base version for android users.
    - gst 5y ago
      > Seems like the only answer for Tile is to get integrated with Apple's solution. Tile is planning to use Amazon Sidewalk: https://www.thetileapp.com/en-us/blog/announcing-tile-joins-amazon-sidewalk-network https://www.thetileapp.com/en-us/blog/announcing-tile-joins-...

CharlesW 5y ago

No, this is literally about about locking people even further into a closed ecosystem by increasing its utility. (And I say this as an Apple fan.)

stayaway4u 5y ago
It's a bit baffling that people are aware of anti consumer practices yet are fans. From the book "The Element", I imagine you(or anyone buying Apple) think you are a unique individual? Is it possible to snap out of it by using your rational, thinking part of your brain?
- gowld 5y ago
  The rational thinking part of my brain says Apple provides more values for money than competing options, in the real world I live in.
- drcongo 5y ago
  This comment is so confused that I'm really not sure what point you're trying to make beyond trying and failing to insult people. But just in case this wasn't just the cat walking across your keyboard: yes, it's possible to be a fan of something that provides infinitely more value than the alternative while simultaneously not being perfect. I can't think of anything that _is_ perfect and has fans.
PurpleFoxy 5y ago
From the business perspective, Apple probably doesn’t care about selling the tags, the real value is in making the iPhone experience better. So if a user buys a tile tracker and it works better on iOS because of the iPhone network, that’s a win for them. They don’t have to wipe out tile.
- kalleboo 5y ago
  Yeah, Apple doesn't seem to have much interest in selling little plastic tiles to people. They've avoided selling their own HomeKit gear, they're licensing AirPlay to be put in TVs so people don't have to buy AppleTVs, and they stopped selling routers long ago. Even when it comes to dongles which everyone thinks Apple loves selling, they have a meager selection and have outsourced many of them (e.g. they don't have a first-party USB-C Ethernet dongle) With the MFi Program, they still make lots of money on third-party products, without all of that costly R&D and support on their own end.
  - PurpleFoxy 5y ago
    I have to say that the dongles situation for iPads is so much better on USB c. The apple adapters cost a fortune compared to the USB c versions. I was blown away when I plugged a full laptop USB C hub in to my iPad Air 4 and was able to use a USB keyboard, mouse and hdmi out.
- rootusrootus 5y ago
  But it will wipe out Tile, unless I am missing something. Apple's solution would instantly make all iPhones into tag detectors, which is a vast improvement over the current Tile situation where only Tile customers' phones are tag detectors. Seems like the only answer for Tile is to get integrated with Apple's solution.
  - PurpleFoxy 5y ago
    Tiles main business model is selling the hardware. They can sell an apple compatible version which will work incredibly and light years ahead of their current product, and then keep selling the base version for android users.
  - gst 5y ago
    > Seems like the only answer for Tile is to get integrated with Apple's solution. Tile is planning to use Amazon Sidewalk: https://www.thetileapp.com/en-us/blog/announcing-tile-joins-amazon-sidewalk-network https://www.thetileapp.com/en-us/blog/announcing-tile-joins-...