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Elk Grove Paying Homeless People to Clean Up After Themselves, and It’s Working
- mrtweetyhack 6y agodumb
- htk 6y agoPotential for Cobra Effect[1]. If I was homeless and lived near Elk Grove I’d move there. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perverse_incentive https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perverse_incentive
- ElijahLynn 6y agoIt is $20 every other Wednesday. It has cost 10K over a year. Not exactly a way to get a lot of cash.
- diogenescynic 6y agoHow did the situation get so bad so fast? There are now homeless camps all over California. It’s not this bad in other states except maybe parts of Oregon and Washington. As a lifelong resident, I am thinking California is conclusively making the problem worse but hasn’t figured that out yet.
- nullserver 6y agoI’m going to burn hard for this. California has been one party rule the last few years. Look at what happened to Venezuela for the endgame.
- kgin 6y agoVenezuela collapsed because it expropriated most private industry and destroyed confidence in property rights. Is anything like that happening in California?
- DoreenMichele 6y agoOne factor: They have underbuilt housing for a lot of years. https://streetlifesolutions.blogspot.com/2018/05/california-statistics-on-homelessness.html https://streetlifesolutions.blogspot.com/2018/05/california-...
- diogenescynic 6y agoSorry the folks on fentanyl and meth on the street wouldn’t be able to afford housing regardless. It’s a mental health and and drug epidemic. Every freeway now has tents and piles of filth. It was never ever his way. No one ends up on the street because the rent got raised... they’d get a roommate or move. The people we are seeing simply didn’t exist in previous generations. Fentanyl is a lot stronger than the heroin than people were doing in the 50s.
- DoreenMichele 6y agoNo one ends up on the street because the rent got raised... they’d get a roommate or move Actual research suggests otherwise.
- diogenescynic 6y agoYet you did’t cite any... If you’re doing fentanyl or smoking meth under a freeway overpass, it’s highly unlikely you could have afforded an apartment at any price. The problem isn’t being solved because people are trying to blame the wrong cause. Despite all the money we throw at the problem, the homeless and drug addicted live in a much worse situation than any any comparable developed country. California is clearly making the problem worse, not better: >How did things get so bad in California? The state has long prided itself on being humanistic and innovative. It is home to some of the world’s largest public health philanthropies, best hospitals, and most progressive policies on mental health and drug addiction. The Democrats have a supermajority. What went wrong? >According to Bales and other experts, California made homelessness worse by making perfect housing the enemy of good housing, by liberalizing drug laws, and by opposing mandatory treatment for mental illness and drug addiction > Other states have done a better job despite spending less money. “This isn’t rocket science,” said John Snook, who runs the Treatment Advocacy Center, which advises states on mental health and homelessness policy around the country. “Arizona is a red state that doesn’t spend a ton on its services but is the best scenario in every aspect. World-class coordination with law enforcement. Strong oversight. They don’t let people fall apart and then return to jail in 30 days like California does.” https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelshellenberger/2019/09/12/why-california-keeps-making-homelessness-worse/?sh=61543a3a5a61 https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelshellenberger/2019/09/12... California is making asinine policies that increase the problem.
- ElijahLynn 6y agoNice, just sent this to my city, Hillsboro, Oregon. I think we would consider something like this as we have a large initiative around houselessness.
- Proven 6y agoRidiculous. But then again, this is the USSA where economy looks like it was planned by the Soviets, and no government has spent less than they could afford in decades.