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I have a hard time with this. Don’t get me wrong overall I am for banning terrorists, pedophiles etc. from services like twitch, but, it needs to be done in a

I have a hard time with this. Don’t get me wrong overall I am for banning terrorists, pedophiles etc. from services like twitch, but, it needs to be done in a smart way. The concerns I have around this is that 1. It’s not clear where you draw the line of what counts as severe misconduct 2. What happens if someone did something that counts as severe misconduct five years ago and today they are a completely different person. Will services like twitch take this into account when deciding whether someone should be banned? 3. How easy will it be for people to abuse this system and get innocent people they don’t like banned from using services like Twitch. Will they put in place a proper appeal process or will it be similar to the appeal processes we see in other big companies in which there is no one you can actually speak to. Banning people from a service is an often necessary but extreme action that needs to be done with care. When it is for something that someone did while using your system it is easier to be confident that the ban is justified. Banning people for actions outside of your system is really uncharted territory so it will be interesting to see how this plays out and to see how many false positives there are.

mrguyorama 6y ago
Specifically, when it comes to entertainment and mass market stuff like this, the rules have always been crystal clear: 1. Make us money. Make us so much goddamned money. If you don't, we'll probably just get rid of you at some point 2. Don't embarrass us, cost us money, waste our resources, bring media scrutiny upon us, make literally any small part of our life even a little bit more difficult, or screw with us. Rule 2 is a very flexible scale that depends on rule 1. Wasn't there that streamer that abused her cat live on stream and she still is a golden child of the platform?
- benja123 6y ago
  I agree about rule number 2 although that has seemed to have changed a bit more recently with the banning of Trump and other extremely popular right wing social media users from multiple platforms
ipaddr 6y ago
#3 is the interesting outcome. Many valid and not valid complaints will be made. Twitch will pick favourites and ban. Things will be unfair. Good people will leave and unwanted people will find a way to stay under new names. Revenge clans will be organized. Sounds ugly.
athms 6y ago
>I am for banning terrorists, pedophiles etc. Who is a terrorist in your opinion? Pedophiles? Pedophilia is the sexual attraction to prepubescent children. It isn't anything more than that. Puberty normally begins from 9-11 in girls and 10-12 in boys. All the research done to date has shown that pedophilia develops in the womb, hence people are born this way. No different than homosexuality. Also, most pedophiles don't molest children and most child molesters are not pedophiles. The molestation is usually done because the person has access and control over the child, not necessarily attraction to the child.

mrguyorama 6y ago

Specifically, when it comes to entertainment and mass market stuff like this, the rules have always been crystal clear: 1. Make us money. Make us so much goddamned money. If you don't, we'll probably just get rid of you at some point 2. Don't embarrass us, cost us money, waste our resources, bring media scrutiny upon us, make literally any small part of our life even a little bit more difficult, or screw with us. Rule 2 is a very flexible scale that depends on rule 1. Wasn't there that streamer that abused her cat live on stream and she still is a golden child of the platform?

benja123 6y ago
I agree about rule number 2 although that has seemed to have changed a bit more recently with the banning of Trump and other extremely popular right wing social media users from multiple platforms

ipaddr 6y ago

#3 is the interesting outcome. Many valid and not valid complaints will be made. Twitch will pick favourites and ban. Things will be unfair. Good people will leave and unwanted people will find a way to stay under new names. Revenge clans will be organized. Sounds ugly.

athms 6y ago

>I am for banning terrorists, pedophiles etc. Who is a terrorist in your opinion? Pedophiles? Pedophilia is the sexual attraction to prepubescent children. It isn't anything more than that. Puberty normally begins from 9-11 in girls and 10-12 in boys. All the research done to date has shown that pedophilia develops in the womb, hence people are born this way. No different than homosexuality. Also, most pedophiles don't molest children and most child molesters are not pedophiles. The molestation is usually done because the person has access and control over the child, not necessarily attraction to the child.